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Re:We’re Google Workers, and We Are Forming a Union by runawaybottle on Monday January 04, 2021 @07:55AM (#25630676)
I think it’s fine if it starts off ideologically. A union is only as good as the total membership count. Get everyone in with whatever pretense, then you have bargaining power.
Re:We’re Google Workers, and We Are Forming a Union by choeger on Monday January 04, 2021 @08:00AM (#25630733)
That's a very risky proposition. From what I can tell from the outside, many "progressives" throw equality and freedom out of the window when it comes to voting.

By the tone of that article, I would not even be surprised if white males don't get to vote in that union or are excluded from influential positions.

Re:We’re Google Workers, and We Are Forming a Union by toopok4k3 on Monday January 04, 2021 @08:09AM (#25630816)
A lot of silly ifs you are throwing out.

Maybe ask them yourself and get involved?

Re:We’re Google Workers, and We Are Forming a Union by runawaybottle on Monday January 04, 2021 @08:03AM (#25630762)
Think of the long game. Getting a union is the hard part. The ideological fervor will change with seasons, but the core issues will remain the same across decades (the stuff workers want to be able to negotiate). Nothing is free, some price must be paid.

Nothing pisses off a company more than workers organizing, so take whatever help you can get.

Re:We’re Google Workers, and We Are Forming a Union by dazilcher on Monday January 04, 2021 @08:08AM (#25630808)
Why would I want to piss off the company I choose to work for?
Re:We’re Google Workers, and We Are Forming a Union by toopok4k3 on Monday January 04, 2021 @08:16AM (#25630898)
Don't piss them off alone, piss with others and they might treat you better.

You might want to think about the balance of the system. Are you actually choosing to work for them instead of the system making it look like they are the best job? Could it be better with some re-balancing?

Re:We’re Google Workers, and We Are Forming a Union by ForHackernews on Monday January 04, 2021 @08:38AM (#25631132)
Because you can get more money, better working conditions, and guaranteed rights, and that will irritate your bosses' bosses' owners and their investors.
Re:We’re Google Workers, and We Are Forming a Union by runawaybottle on Monday January 04, 2021 @08:13AM (#25630865)
Because now you have numbers :p

Check out how the collective bargaining agreement works with the NBA Player’s union and NBA. They get pretty fair terms, led by Chris Paul/LeBron James (who have it the best but they lead the union).

https://cosmic-s3.imgix.net/3c7a0a50-8e11-11e9-875d-3d44e94a...

^^ I can promise you the list of things negotiated in that could never be done well enough by the company itself. Oh, and that’s a union for multi millionaires.

Re:We’re Google Workers, and We Are Forming a Union by maxehmookau on Monday January 04, 2021 @08:13AM (#25630866)
> I would not even be surprised if white males don't get to vote in that union or are excluded from influential positions.

Good point. Traditionally white men are massively underrepresented and we should be making more of an effort to make sure they're represented at every level of tech. /s

Re:We’re Google Workers, and We Are Forming a Union by westmeal on Monday January 04, 2021 @08:42AM (#25631168)
Do you not realize that judging based on skin color was the same reason the idea of 'representation' exists? A vote should hold equal weight regardless of who you are or what you look like.
Re:We’re Google Workers, and We Are Forming a Union by dahfizz on Monday January 04, 2021 @08:46AM (#25631219)
You want to judge people by the content of their character instead of their skin color? That's racist.

/s

Re:We’re Google Workers, and We Are Forming a Union by maxehmookau on Monday January 04, 2021 @08:47AM (#25631229)
Exactly.

Except, that isn't what happens right now. Most people aren't intending to make decisions based on skin colour, yet it happens.