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Re:DOJ Argues: US can kill own citizens without review when ... by busterarm on Saturday January 02, 2021 @11:53PM (#25619564)
I'm not really all that partisan. I'm mostly center left. For the most part I'm convinced that all politicians are self-serving idiots. All of these criticisms I'm levelling have come at this administration from both sides.

If there's any blinders, its the fawning treatment he received form the press for largely doing nothing or worse than nothing. Notice how much more criticism has come at him from the left since leaving office.

He's an adored president with an abysmal legacy. I voted for him, by the way. I'm vocal with the criticism because I feel I share in the responsibility for what happened.

> Huh.. and you're asserting that Obama didn't continue that policy? Sorry but Iraq didn't turn to a peaceful and solved problem in 2008.

I'm not saying that it was, but we and our allies already had troops committed in the region. If we'd left, we would have been leaving our allies holding the bag.

I was comparing Iraq to Libya, where after we removed Gaddafi, we didn't do shit. That situation created all of those other things that I mentioned.

Re:DOJ Argues: US can kill own citizens without review when ... by netsharc on Sunday January 03, 2021 @12:06AM (#25619631)
Heh, to defend Obama on Gaddafi, it's not like he's got crystal balls. And if he had done an Iraq War II deployment into Libya, the American public (presumably you too) would've screamed for his head, after suffering 8 years of the clusterfuck that is Iraq (and 10 of Afghanistan), which was started and kept in "fucked" state for 5 (7 for AF) years by people like Rumsfeld and Cheney.
Re:DOJ Argues: US can kill own citizens without review when ... by busterarm on Sunday January 03, 2021 @01:21AM (#25619950)
Even at the time most people thought his removal was a bit odd and unneccessary.

Later on with the leaked cables, we found out that it was largely because he was trying to create a gold-backed pan-African currency that would have harmed French central banking interests in the region.

One of the first things the "revolutionaries" that ousted Gaddafi did was create a central bank. While they were still fighting for territory.