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Re:Do not let your domain expire with Google Apps by btucker on Wednesday May 18, 2011 @03:20PM (#2561343)
Any thoughts on how Google could prevent this? Seems important they provide a way to reclaim domains.
Re:Do not let your domain expire with Google Apps by Sidnicious on Wednesday May 18, 2011 @04:00PM (#2561520)
I think that the trust model for Google Apps account recovery is wrong. The domain name is a separate asset from the Apps account and the data in it.

The owner of the domain name should be able to create a brand-new Google Apps account for it. Recovering access to an account should be done through another channel (secondary email address, SMS, postal mail).

Re:Do not let your domain expire with Google Apps by vladd on Wednesday May 18, 2011 @04:04PM (#2561542)
This isn't practical since any Apps admin account has by definition access to modify/reset all regular accounts belonging to that company/domain, so if you don't use things like wipeouts upon whois creation date modifications, the potential to expose a lot of private data from the former owner still exists.
Re:Do not let your domain expire with Google Apps by Sidnicious on Wednesday May 18, 2011 @04:17PM (#2561604)
Maybe “account” is the wrong word. I think that the domain’s owner should be able to create an entirely new “instance” of Google Apps (with separate users and separate data), whereupon the old instance would be detached from domain.

An admin of the old apps instance should be able to get into it to access data, delete it, or attach it to a different domain name.

Re:Do not let your domain expire with Google Apps by vladd on Wednesday May 18, 2011 @03:33PM (#2561400)
When a domain is being reclaimed by someone signed into a different Google Account than the previous admins, check if the domain's whois creation date has changed, and if so, make it mandatory to wipe out the data previously associated with the domain before continuing.

In addition, password resets via email requested at domains having the whois creation date after the account creation date should probably be disabled.

Re:Do not let your domain expire with Google Apps by OneWhoFrogs on Wednesday May 18, 2011 @08:53PM (#2562484)
Google could ask for the password of the old account. If the user gets it correct within x tries, restore the data. If not, start anew.
Re:Do not let your domain expire with Google Apps by zmmmmm on Wednesday May 18, 2011 @06:58PM (#2562182)
Google has been pretty strong on encouraging users to enter a "backup" email address. At least, on 4 different gmail accounts it pestered me mercilessly until I gave it one.

Seems like if you are trying to reclaim a domain then requiring the user to verify access to their "backup" email address could be a simple step that would help a lot.

Re:Do not let your domain expire with Google Apps by DenisM on Wednesday May 18, 2011 @03:33PM (#2561404)
Require a phone number and send SMS for accessing domains which have previously expired.
Re:Do not let your domain expire with Google Apps by vladd on Wednesday May 18, 2011 @03:34PM (#2561413)
That won't work for existing customers since requiring a phone number must be done when initially signing up.

In addition, expired domains purchased by someone else won't be usable with Google Apps.