I read this and thought: oh, another article where the author attempts to say people that don't wholeheartedly trust the mainstream media and their fact checkers are overly emotional conspiracy theorists. This has continued to backfire spectacularly and push their audience away from them and will continue to do so. People aren't stupid.
The only thing missing (thanks to Big Tech censorship) is a strong independent media using actual journalism to deliver information instead of clearly biased reporting.
Why? Trump's posts to Twitter are mostly lies. Have a look:
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump
He's still lying about the results of the election. He claims repeatedly that it was a "rigged election", that the election was "the biggest SCAM in our nation’s history", and that really he "won big" "in a landslide". All of these claims are false.
Trump has demonstrated that he simply doesn't care what's true. It's banana republic stuff.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/04/politics/donald-trump-geo...
“We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” Biden said in a clip posted to Instagram Oct. 24.
His words, not mine!
BTW, you can "fact check" that all you want but whichever way you dice it, he's senile and will likely be quickly replaced by Harris.
In the time since this article on disinformation was written Trump has incited a mob to invade the Capitol Building, again based on his false claims that the election was "stolen".
He's not making America great, he's making it worse. He's trying as hard as he can to turn America into a banana republic.
It's not that it's a deliberate goal. It's worse than that. He simply doesn't care.
There's nothing I can say to convince you otherwise, so I am going to skip over this.
> He's not making America great, he's making it worse. He's trying as hard as he can to turn America into a banana republic.
I thought "America was never great." Whoops!
> In the time since this article on disinformation was written Trump has incited a mob to invade the Capitol Building, again based on his false claims that the election was "stolen".
Trump didn't incite them, they were already incited. You are being willfully ignorant if you think otherwise.
To me, this looks like a lot of people who are angry at the congress critters over the lockdowns, the hypocrisy of those who impose them not following their own rules, burning cities for months, and overall disenfranchisement.
Do you think these people would go to the capitol building for something like that if they felt like the system was working for them? I don't. The system no longer works, people feel disenfranchised on both sides, the regime went too far and became too oppressive. The public struck back.
If you have a conscious, the only people you would blame for the events of 2020 are the politicians at the federal, state and local levels, and not their disenfranchised constituents.
I keep saying this over and over again and for some reason people on here don't get it. Quit blaming powerless citizens!
Yes, you have no answer for it. It's too stark to be explained away. Trump lies constantly. He always has, he always will.
> Trump didn't incite them
They disagree with you. To quote them, "Our president wants us here. We wait and take orders from our president":
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/09/us/capitol-rioters.html
> Do you think these people would go to the capitol building for something like that if they felt like the system was working for them?
So you're saying that it would have been better if Trump had been a competent president and had actually helped people instead of stroking his own ego. Instead, he is now unambiguously the worst president in America's history.
> Quit blaming powerless citizens!
I blame Trump.
You're going to post stuff from CNN, and I really don't want to argue with their slanted fact checkers via you. You also won't understand anything you don't want to. There's no point. It hasn't mattered to your side that there is video evidence and testimony from postal workers.
Reality is, six states stopped counting votes on election night all at the same time. Very fishy.
At least admit you got what you wanted, and because of that, you're fine with the fraud.
> They disagree with you. To quote them, "Our president wants us here. We wait and take orders from our president":
Again they wouldn't have come if things were going well in the country. Also, I don't care about your links. I'm not a redditor.
> So you're saying that it would have been better if Trump had been a competent president and had actually helped people instead of stroking his own ego. Instead, he is now unambiguously the worst president in America's history. > I blame Trump.
If trump is the only person you blame for all of this, you are going to be sorely disappointed with what comes next. Congress is the one who sat on the second covid relief bill.
There was no fraud. People like Trump depend on people like you being unwilling to accept the practical reality.
The title of the article linked to in this Hacker News thread is "Facts won't fix this". And it's true. You are the proof of it.
I’m seriously getting a laugh out of these conservatives who are struggling to make ends meet but have voted Mitch McConnell into office for 35 years. The same guy who just laughed in their face regarding $2k relief checks for them.
I remember reading a comment by someone that went something along the lines “I’ve voted for Mitch my entire life mostly because he opposes the democrat agenda” and I can’t help but get a little bit of joy when they get what they deserve.
It’s not about the masks, it’s about being stuck with this for two decades as they try to frighten and terrorize everyone with medical diseases, which allows the government to do whatever they want unopposed. Non-compliance with the masks is usually people protesting this more than they are trying to be inconsiderate to other people. Also, if you think a crappy cloth mask is going to protect anyone else, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. (For the record, I would have a different opinion if our government had mobilized producing actual medical grade masks and mandated that.)
This crisis may be even scarier than the Middle East terrorism thing though, because it encourages self righteous dingbats to rat on their neighbors and use the state against their neighbors. It’s all in our own backyard now. And people are doing exactly what the party wants, and it looks to me like like how the neighbors and kids behaved in 1984.
And there’s endless obscure diseases they can highlight that everyone mostly just glossed over before. COVID-19 headlines starts to run flat? Just highlight a new strain of it to whip the fervor up again... oh wait.
You’ll surely call me a conspiracy theorist, even though I’m simply applying that I learned from the Middle East terrorism situation on to this one, but I don’t care. I have already seen this for what it is, a real disease but being hijacked as a tool to manipulate and control people, and have moved on. Don’t be fooled, there’s to be no “back to normal.” Ever. The mask non-comply-ers are simply having a hard time of letting go of the life they knew.
You have to be either incredibly base or willfully ignorant to not understand and have empathy with your fellow citizens.
Believe me, I’d love to get rid of the ultra right wing party and the slightly less right wing party.