UK formally leaves European Union after 48 years

Re:UK formally leaves European Union after 48 years by runarberg on Thursday December 31, 2020 @08:03PM (#25599482)

By that logic we would expect the German states to vote them self out of the German federation, Scotland and Wales to vote them self out of the UK, Nigeria to break apart, etc. And not only that we should expect it to happen with hostility towards the old nation, e.g. no trade unions after independence (unlike e.g. Catalonia not only voting them self out of Spain, but also out of the EU).

However that seems not be happening, nor does there seem to be any will towards it.

It seems people actually quite like each other, and they like to be able to visit each other, and trade with each other, even though they speak different language or have different religion. In fact in the world today, tribalism seems to becoming more and more on fringe.

I don’t believe for a second that people voted for Brexit because of tribalism. Some might have, but they were definitely a tiny minority.

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Re:UK formally leaves European Union after 48 years by azornathogron on Thursday December 31, 2020 @08:14PM (#25599619)

> However that seems not be happening, nor does there seem to be any will towards it.

I don't know about your other examples, but there is definitely some will toward Scotland voting themselves out of the UK. There was already a referendum about it a few years ago, and there has been more talk again recently since Scottish voters didn't want Brexit and many would love for Scotland to be able to break from the UK and rejoin the EU.

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Re:UK formally leaves European Union after 48 years by runarberg on Thursday December 31, 2020 @08:28PM (#25599755)

Yeah I did think of that as I was writing this response, but there is a difference though. As I note in the Catalonia example the sentiment is not tribalism as people generally want to retain relations with the foreign neighbors post independence (e.g. I bet most Scots want to rejoin EU post independence).

I bet even most people voting for Brexit didn’t want this hard “we are on our own, and we don’t care for nobody” type Brexit as you would expect if tribalism prevailed (as evident that most people even in favor of hard no deal Brexit still favor CANZUK).

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