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Re:Ask HN: Should we eliminate downvoting on HN? by ocdtrekkie on Thursday December 31, 2020 @01:49PM (#25595724)
> Perhaps people have ideas they'd like to discuss, but don't want to risk "losing points" because the idea may be unpopular. I know that I have personally experienced this, and stopped myself from expressing an idea because I've been pretty sure it wouldn't be popular.

This is a problem with your mindset, not the HN system. You should not place significant concern on collecting Internet karma. I currently have over 18,000 karma, and I happily and regularly have expressed thoughts and opinions that get me -4'd. (Basically, as low as you can go on a given comment.) Doing so has not hurt me in any meaningful capacity, or even, obviously, in a meaningless HN karma capacity. Post unpopular views.

I'm mostly aware that a certain crowd will downvote anytime I point out that Section 230 should be repealed, that we'd all be better off as a society if Google stopped existing as a website and corporate entity tomorrow, or that unlimited data is a bad thing for ISPs to offer, etc. Sometimes I am surprised when I make a comment I expect to be unpopular, and it ends up somewhat popular!

The problem you run into is that many people feel that a comment they disagree with is low quality. Encouraging flagging over downvotes would actually increase censorship: Instead of downvoting, users would flag a lot more comments, and they'd be more likely to be hidden by the site.

Re:Ask HN: Should we eliminate downvoting on HN? by claytongulick on Thursday December 31, 2020 @01:53PM (#25595759)
> This is a problem with your mindset, not the HN system.

That very well may be true.

> Encouraging flagging over downvotes would actually increase censorship

That's a good point. Flagging seems a bit more objectively defined than downvoting though.

Re:Ask HN: Should we eliminate downvoting on HN? by majewsky on Thursday December 31, 2020 @04:58PM (#25597650)
> Flagging seems a bit more objectively defined than downvoting though.

I think I get what you mean, but if you give people only one really strong negative signal, they'll be tempted to use it whenever they have negative feelings about something, thereby devaluating it. This may very well have been why downvotes were added in the first place.