Re:European Citizen's Initiative for Unconditional Basic Income
by mytailorisrich on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @09:56AM
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I think you are very confused, and I write this in a friendly way.
Re:European Citizen's Initiative for Unconditional Basic Income
by Scandiravian on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @10:23AM
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You're welcome to think that
If you can show definitive proof that there is a limitation on the spending power of a government, that can only be overcome by selling bonds or collecting taxes, I'll happily change my position
I'd like to know what evidence would make you change your position?
Re:European Citizen's Initiative for Unconditional Basic Income
by username90 on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @10:28AM
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Government debt means something as long as people can profit from interest of said debt, end of discussion.
Re:European Citizen's Initiative for Unconditional Basic Income
by Scandiravian on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @11:12AM
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Cool
Today the overwhelming majority of money is digital and producing more doesn't require the government to have enough metal to mint coins. They simply need to change numbers in a spreadsheet
The "borrowing" you're referring to is not a transfer of physical assets. The money doesn't "go" anywhere, because they only exist as abstract representations in a spreadsheet
The government of the UK has chosen to only spend an amount equal to the one removed from selling bonds, but there's is literally nothing preventing them from doing it without that step
If the government want to spend more money than they get in through bonds and taxes, they can just do it
If they wanted to remove money from circulation they would simply issue bonds and not have an equivalent spending at the same time
It's two independent operations, that seems connected if you have a mental model that a government runs a household budget
That the UK base economic decisions on that assumption does not change the underlying mechanics of the transactions or invalidate MTT as a model for describing economical systems