News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Ask HN: Manual skills that pay well and can be self taught? by scrapcode on Monday December 28, 2020 @10:33PM (#25566458)
Many of the trades still pay over the average mid-level Software Engineer here in the Midwestern US. Of course who your employer is in either field is going to make a difference.

If this is the direction you're trying to go: I grew up in the trades and keep trying to bounce back into that direction, but always get pulled back towards the technical aspect and/or implementing tech into the business side once anyone in management figures out you can as much as use the Office Suite. I eventually got backed into a spot of not enough "professional" dev experience to leave, and old enough to not be desired to start over as a junior.

If you're dead set, though, I'd start with HVAC - I think it's the best balance of interesting with a little manual effort to it. Includes a bit of many trades (plumbing, electrical, steam depending on the area). The main walled garden is the EPA-608 cert and it can be obtained fairly easily with little study.

Re:Ask HN: Manual skills that pay well and can be self taught? by the_only_law on Thursday December 31, 2020 @09:38AM (#25593013)
Does the midwest have a strong union culture or something? I'm in the southeast and whenever I look at data for pay on most trades people, you still are unlikely to come anywhere near the salary for a software engineer unless you have 10-20 years of experience, and even that is dependent on the trades. Checking various trades on Glassdoor around my location shows the low end being mid-20 to low-30s with the high end capping in the 50s or 60s, which doesn't sound bound till you see that amount for years that people want for that pay.