Re:Archaeologists uncover ancient street food shop in Pompeii
by Bayart on Monday December 28, 2020 @09:26AM
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>Yeah, the 440 to late 1400s were a regress for European civilization.
That's old but very sticky Early Modern propaganda, mostly due to anti-Catholicism. No serious historian today would make that claim, and frankly it's complete nonsense.
Re:Archaeologists uncover ancient street food shop in Pompeii
by lou1306 on Monday December 28, 2020 @03:12AM
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> Yeah, the 440 to late 1400s were a regress for European civilization.
Uhm, I'd say more like 378 (battle of Hadrianopolis) - 800 (Charlemagne is crowned Emperor). The idea that the whole medieval period is a "dark age" [1] is currently discredited among historians: from 800 until the Black Death of the mid-1300s, European culture and economy grew almost nonstop.
[1]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Ages_(historiography)
Re:Archaeologists uncover ancient street food shop in Pompeii
by ciceryadam on Monday December 28, 2020 @07:13AM
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Similarly for central/eastern Europe the Mongol invasion in the 13th century was a major "dark age" setback: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasion_of_Europe
It took the renaissance to change things up and for innovation and cultural progress to pick up. So, it was more than a 1000 years lost to petty warfare, destruction and general ignorance.
If the Roman Empire had endured, who knows how things would have evolved. We would have been a different civilization by now. We probably would have had colonized mars by now :)
Ps. The byzantine empire, the eastern side of the Roman empire, after the late 600s - 700s, was just a shade of its original, and kept losing territory and influence until it was just a city state conquered by the Ottomans in 1453.