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Re:Ask HN: What Lived Up to the Hype? by cercatrova on Thursday December 24, 2020 @03:17PM (#25531029)
Interesting that people are substituting the hard question (what has been hyped and has lived up to it) with the easier question (what is good and has stood the test of time) and answering that instead, a form of attribute substitution bias [0].

My answers would be Mr Robot, especially after seeing what happened with Game Of Thrones. Having a story that is planned out from start to finish is miles better than improvising as one goes along;

and also React, especially hooks. Hooks are an incredible mechanism for creating compositional lifecycles, something I've seen only discussed really in this Flutter implementation issue [1], and it should be seen as an amazing contribution to complex tree management systems.

[0] https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Attribute_substitution

[1] https://github.com/flutter/flutter/issues/51752

Re:Ask HN: What Lived Up to the Hype? by bananabiscuit on Thursday December 24, 2020 @03:31PM (#25531141)
Interesting, I would never have guessed Mr Robot was planned out start to finish. I loved the first season, but by the middle of the third season it felt very much like a show where the writers had no idea where to take the plot next, haven’t watched anymore since.
Re:Ask HN: What Lived Up to the Hype? by andrewmackrodt on Thursday December 24, 2020 @04:33PM (#25531641)
I had similar thoughts but was so glad I stuck with season 4, it is probably one of the best seasons of TV I've ever seen and provided satisfactory closure. IMO season 4 is worth watching no matter what you thought of the middle seasons, I've rewatched it a few times which I almost never do.
Re:Ask HN: What Lived Up to the Hype? by colinmhayes on Thursday December 24, 2020 @06:27PM (#25532550)
I felt the same way. It sort of fell apart during the later seasons. But the final season, especially the second half of it is easily one of my favorite seasons ever. The writing is absolutely incredible, especially as a software developer. Basically like an opposite lost, everything comes together in an incredibly satisfying way.
Re:Ask HN: What Lived Up to the Hype? by slg on Thursday December 24, 2020 @08:39PM (#25533428)
The project started out as a movie and so it is no surprise it had a great start and end but got a little lost in the middle when the idea needed to be stretched out.
Re:Ask HN: What Lived Up to the Hype? by cercatrova on Thursday December 24, 2020 @03:37PM (#25531184)
You should continue watching, it all comes together in the last half of the 4th season. You'll understand why Elliot is the way he is.
Re:Ask HN: What Lived Up to the Hype? by handmodel on Thursday December 24, 2020 @04:05PM (#25531407)
I'm with the prior poster - season 1 is planned and is rewarding on its own. I personally don't think the series was satisfying after that.
Re:Ask HN: What Lived Up to the Hype? by cercatrova on Thursday December 24, 2020 @04:29PM (#25531611)
Interesting, you didn't like the entire backstory and what was being alluded to in the flashbacks?
Re:Ask HN: What Lived Up to the Hype? by handmodel on Thursday December 24, 2020 @04:47PM (#25531743)
I didn't. I think it was overly complicated without much meaning. Sure, it sorta explained some stuff, but not in a way that was interesting or entertaining.

At least for me - though I think most viewers felt the same way. To each their own.

Re:Ask HN: What Lived Up to the Hype? by 3131s on Friday December 25, 2020 @02:28AM (#25534910)
It lost me by about the 5th episode.
Re:Ask HN: What Lived Up to the Hype? by packetlost on Thursday December 24, 2020 @04:21PM (#25531545)
You are sorely missing out. Mr. Robot is laid out in three acts. You cannot skip the last season (Act III), it provides closure and ties the seeming chaos of the middle two seasons (collectively, Act II) into a cohesive plot.
Re:Ask HN: What Lived Up to the Hype? by jonathankoren on Thursday December 24, 2020 @08:26PM (#25533364)
When I read about season 5, I didn’t interpret it to mean that the entire show was planned out, just that the ending was.
Re:Ask HN: What Lived Up to the Hype? by junon on Thursday December 24, 2020 @04:57PM (#25531821)
React hooks are terribly implemented. They cause deadlock in the simplest of cases.

Check out Adam Haile's S.js and Surplus if you want a better example of this approach (which came LONG before "hooks"). Surplus also tops performance charts consistently, and has done so for years. Really underrated framework that is lightweight and battle tested.

Re:Ask HN: What Lived Up to the Hype? by Merad on Thursday December 24, 2020 @07:35PM (#25533043)
I've seen people cause all kinds of problems with hooks, but I don't believe I've ever seen deadlock. Can you elaborate?
Re:Ask HN: What Lived Up to the Hype? by walto2 on Thursday December 24, 2020 @05:24PM (#25532057)
Can you elaborate on the deadlock risk, or link to further reading?
Re:Ask HN: What Lived Up to the Hype? by cercatrova on Thursday December 24, 2020 @05:16PM (#25531988)
Haile's work seems mostly to be stream-based like RXJS, is that right? They seem to be reactive components. Can you show me how I can compose pieces of life cycles together using Haile's libraries like I can with hooks?
Re:Ask HN: What Lived Up to the Hype? by scabarott on Thursday December 24, 2020 @05:48PM (#25532234)
>>Interesting that people are substituting the hard question (what has been hyped and has lived up to it)

I think it's the way you're reading the answers (and the question). If you look at it as "What was hyped to you and lived up to the hype when you finally experienced it", then the answers make sense and there's no confusion.

Re:Ask HN: What Lived Up to the Hype? by cercatrova on Thursday December 24, 2020 @05:53PM (#25532285)
Maybe. I'm not sure who's really hyping up ancient texts like the Bible these days, or some of the other answers as well.
Re:Ask HN: What Lived Up to the Hype? by scabarott on Friday December 25, 2020 @12:17AM (#25534389)
I didn't see that post, but I'm sure the poster meant they had huge expectations based on it's reputation as 'the book' or it's place in popular culture and it lived up to that hype when they did read it. The original question is ambiguous and can be answered both ways.
Re:Ask HN: What Lived Up to the Hype? by fergie on Thursday December 24, 2020 @04:48PM (#25531754)
Never understood why React hooks are such a big deal- I mean you’re just setting state. Or am I missing something?
Re:Ask HN: What Lived Up to the Hype? by cercatrova on Thursday December 24, 2020 @05:20PM (#25532014)
It seems you are. I'd encourage you to read briefly through [1] that I linked above, it shows why hooks are needed rather than just functions. Basically you're passing state around in a Closure such that you can hook into life cycles from any part of the app. This means that I can create a self contained hook for something like making an animation for a component and making it usable for any component I want, rather than wrapping everything into an AnimationComponent just to get the lifecycle state. I can reuse this behavior anywhere else in the app.
Re:Ask HN: What Lived Up to the Hype? by BurningFrog on Thursday December 24, 2020 @05:18PM (#25531999)
I think the point is you don't have to deal with anything else. You only have to set state!
Re:Ask HN: What Lived Up to the Hype? by lmedinas on Thursday December 24, 2020 @06:11PM (#25532423)
I would add also The Sopranos, Entourage and How I met your mother. Fantastic TVShows.