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Re:F*cking (iPhone) NDA by axod on Thursday July 24, 2008 @02:52AM (#255148)
That's pretty standard, why is this surprising? I developed replacement firmward for the Archos handheld multimedia player a few years ago. You couldn't even get documents on the chip. The firmware was completely locked down, compressed+encrypted.

These things just make it more fun :)

Re:F*cking (iPhone) NDA by aristus on Thursday July 24, 2008 @03:40AM (#255165)
It's standard in semiconductors and devices. The iPhone is drawing lots of the kinds of developers (web, ISVs, etc) who are not used to that. They cut their teeth on very open/well-documented environments.
Re:F*cking (iPhone) NDA by axod on Thursday July 24, 2008 @05:37AM (#255217)
Then the answer is for them to get more acquainted to how things work in the real world. Things are closed, things are proprietary. That's business.

Apple hold all the cards because... erm they made the iPhone. It's theirs.

Re:F*cking (iPhone) NDA by oqtol on Thursday July 24, 2008 @09:20AM (#255302)
>Things are closed, things are proprietary. That's business.

Agreed (whether you like it or not, i personally don't care for it).

>erm they made the iPhone. It's theirs.

Disagree. I purchased the phone, it's no longer theirs, it's mine.

Re:F*cking (iPhone) NDA by aristus on Thursday July 24, 2008 @12:59PM (#255501)
I respectfully suggest that times change. A generation ago most "real world" programming platforms were closed. The idea of multi-billion-dollar companies routinely depending on free software stacks was almost inconceivable.