Re:Hotwire: HTML over the Wire
by ithrow on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @01:22PM
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Javascript as a language is actually pretty decent these days, your criticism probably applies more to certain parts of the ecosystem.
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No, I'm talking about js as a whole. Standard library is crap, inconsistent, even the most basic of naming conventions are not followed anywhere. The fact that the standard library jumps between camel case, pascal case, snake case and unicase at random is a perfect example. The list of absurdities is beyond ridiculous[1].
Who on this thread was saying what's old is new? 100% of what you said has also been lobbed at PHP recently and I've heard similar complaint about PERL and MS-SQL (that I remember well) and I'm sure others (one of those Delphi product too)
What's been strange to me though is I've heard JS advocates lobbing those criticisms at PHP, making the case for, say, why 'Node is awesome, PHP sucks'. Conflating a framework vs a language, then pointing out PHP 'issues' that also exist in JS... there's generally little point in trying to engage/correct at that point (context: primarily conference hallway conversations and meetup groups back when those actually happened).
Re:Hotwire: HTML over the Wire
by rorykoehler on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @03:19PM
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JS is the new PHP. Part of the problem with massive popularity is it attracts also the lower ability devs and the ecosystem slowly degrades due to this. This cascades.