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Re:Voat Is Shutting Down by kibwen on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @12:35AM (#25503254)
> roots in these platforms optimizing for engagement.

I don't think so. This pattern has been observed, and has been a problem, since well before the modern eyeballs-and-engagement-obsessed era of the internet, and before ads were even present on forums at all. What you're describing makes it worse, but even in its absence there is a certain vocal subset of humanity for whom dominating a discussion is its own reward. As a forum grows eventually you will attract one of these people, and from that point on the discourse of the forum will be determined by Survival Of The Loudest.

Re:Voat Is Shutting Down by AnthonyMouse on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @01:19AM (#25503510)
The pattern existed, but it was never such a serious problem that so many people started using it to justify the current level of censorship and excommunication until after "maximize engagement" turned it up to eleven.
Re:Voat Is Shutting Down by meheleventyone on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @01:48AM (#25503675)
Oh no it really was. I moderated forums in the late 90s early 00s and it was a lot of work to keep things on topic. Back then of course being a moderator was seen as a thankless service to the community rather than some censoring devil.