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Re:Not Apple, Google and Facebook Are Killing the Free Internet by lrvick on Sunday December 20, 2020 @06:34PM (#25490646)
Sorry are we just ignoring that Apple gave away keys to its HSMs to the CCP giving them a complete backdoor to their citizens?

Or that time they agreed to CCP demands to ban the Taiwan flag emoji, pressure Telegram to ban multiple rooms, and banned multiple apps used by dissidents to communicate?

Apple markets their obedience and cooperation to be successful in China while marketing themselves as champions of privacy in the USA to differentiate themselves from Google... while being worse than Google in China.

This company makes decisions based on what is profitable in a given market. It is all bait and switch to get you into their walled garden.

Re:Not Apple, Google and Facebook Are Killing the Free Internet by applerite987 on Sunday December 20, 2020 @06:39PM (#25490685)
Would you rather prefer a garden that tells you its gated or the one that has invisible gates?
Re:Not Apple, Google and Facebook Are Killing the Free Internet by lrvick on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @06:14PM (#25512580)
Neither. I won't pay money to have my freedoms taken from me, which is the trade with all Apple purchases
Re:Not Apple, Google and Facebook Are Killing the Free Internet by moistly on Sunday December 20, 2020 @08:01PM (#25491092)
I’m curious... what brand of cell phone do you own? Do they not sell in China?
Re:Not Apple, Google and Facebook Are Killing the Free Internet by lrvick on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @06:13PM (#25512567)
What cell phone?

I am holding out for a Librem 5.

Re:Not Apple, Google and Facebook Are Killing the Free Internet by moistly on Thursday December 24, 2020 @02:46PM (#25530775)
The one made in China? 10m40s https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KiItd6I3VHU
Re:Not Apple, Google and Facebook Are Killing the Free Internet by lrvick on Thursday January 07, 2021 @06:09AM (#25669711)
You can pay more to have one made in the US. At least you have a choice.