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Re:Not Apple, Google and Facebook Are Killing the Free Internet by applerite987 on Sunday December 20, 2020 @05:26PM (#25490154)
Facebook’s free basic services and Google’s AMP have done a lot worse than Apple in hijacking the open web.
Re:Not Apple, Google and Facebook Are Killing the Free Internet by antiterra on Sunday December 20, 2020 @05:54PM (#25490376)
A hard line against zero rating is an idealist stance that prevents a pragmatic increase of knowledge sharing. https://xkcd.com/548/
Re:Not Apple, Google and Facebook Are Killing the Free Internet by africanboy on Sunday December 20, 2020 @05:58PM (#25490402)
Where would Facebook and Goggle be without Apple, the app ecosystem and their pernicious tracking abilities?

Apple made something that Facebook and Google only dreamt of: they put a spying device in people's pockets

Android was only a reaction to their success

Re:Not Apple, Google and Facebook Are Killing the Free Internet by azornathogron on Sunday December 20, 2020 @06:19PM (#25490547)
Android Inc was founded in 2003 and acquired by Google in 2005. The iPhone was first released in 2007.

You could argue that without the iPhone smartphones as a market might not have taken off in the way they did (I don't have a good enough knowledge of the history to judge) but I don't think it's fair or accurate to say that Android was just a reaction.

Re:Not Apple, Google and Facebook Are Killing the Free Internet by africanboy on Sunday December 20, 2020 @06:43PM (#25490705)
That's definitely true, as it's true that the first iOS was a modified version of Mac OS X.

Android in 2003 was created to rival with Symbian and BlackBerry but was struggling to be funded

At Google it became the Linux based OS that we know today, but Google was still marketing it for the mobile devices of the time that were nothing like modern smartphones

The real switch happened when Apple released iPhone + AppStore integration that showed the potential of the smartphone devices bundled with a closed ecosystem of apps

Google and Facebook were already in the market of tracking users habits, but it's smartphones that unlocked their true power and enabled them to subvert the open web to their advantage

Apple has never really been interested in the web, they wanted apps for their smartphones and Google and social networks apps, especially Facebook, were a major selling point that drove their enormous success in the mobile market.

Re:Not Apple, Google and Facebook Are Killing the Free Internet by applerite987 on Sunday December 20, 2020 @06:24PM (#25490582)
Android Market was certainly a reaction to Apple’s App Store back in the day.