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Re:The Internet Is for Porn by xg15 on Sunday December 20, 2020 @05:22PM (#25490111)
> Puritans may feel like so much sexuality and hedonism tries to cheat and get the benefits, while not suffering consequences, like pregnancy, adult responsibility of family life etc. That it hollows out the sanctity of this intimate and symbolic act.

Not a puritan, but I could never explain that viewpoint to me with anything else than envy.

Like, being careful with sex if it may lead to unwanted pregnancies makes perfect sense - but those people seem even more upset at the possibility of sex that has no risk attached to it.

Isn't improving quality of life something we are all striving for? This movement seems to go the exact opposite direction and embrace suffering instead of joy.

Re:The Internet Is for Porn by crocodiletears on Sunday December 20, 2020 @07:04PM (#25490808)
Sociologically, the worry is that larger and larger numbers of the young male population will withdraw, and become Hikikomori. Doing the bare minimum to sustain themselves, and riding life between moments of hollow, isolated, carnal release with no greater purpose and a constant nagging dissatisfaction with their marginal existence.

From a perspective of optimization, it could be seen as young men reaching a local minima with respect their quality of life vs the risks and costs of its maintenance.

The commodotization and derisking of sexual pleasure and titillation decouples it from the behaviors it's historically been used as a reward for. This reweights the incentive structures in our society that kept a lot of otherwise ne'er-do-well young people productive.

I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing, but it's something we definitely need to have a collective dialogue about, as we no longer have any centralized moral or executive authorities capable of unilaterally responding to this shift in a manner that puts us back into social balance.

Re:The Internet Is for Porn by bonoboTP on Sunday December 20, 2020 @06:44PM (#25490711)
Surely there is a bitter killjoy undertone in it, yes. Perhaps even more when coming from the old and weak who envy the young for their energy and enjoyment.

But I don't think that's all.