The Essex Boys: how nine traders hit a gusher with negative oil

Re:The Essex Boys: how nine traders hit a gusher with negati... by hnracer on Saturday December 19, 2020 @06:26PM (#25482280)

I think this kind of manipulation would only happen at quarter end, perhaps month end and derivatives expiries. It's otherwise normal to expect price volatility leading up to the auction because traders want to minimize information leakage going into it.

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Re:The Essex Boys: how nine traders hit a gusher with negati... by dmw_ng on Saturday December 19, 2020 @06:39PM (#25482365)

The vast majority of bids entered into the opening and closing crosses occur as close to the submission deadline as physically possible. It's just another speed game, as with almost everything else

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Re:The Essex Boys: how nine traders hit a gusher with negati... by hnracer on Saturday December 19, 2020 @06:40PM (#25482380)

That's sort of what I was saying. They're trying to prevent info leakage hence submit at last moment, which causes volatility in expected match. However, it's not the vast majority, most liquidity is there already more than one second before match. Many ppl have archaic systems and don't care about a bit of extra slippage. I've checked this in some detail.

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