Re:Sustained, high-fidelity quantum teleportation
by pontus on Friday December 18, 2020 @12:36PM
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Correct, cloning in even the simplest sense of a single particle state (let alone a whole human) is impossible in quantum mechanics.
Re:Sustained, high-fidelity quantum teleportation
by FeepingCreature on Friday December 18, 2020 @02:51PM
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Though cloning a human may be possible if the brain does not rely on quantum state. Obligatory "warm and wet" objection.
Re:Sustained, high-fidelity quantum teleportation
by tomrod on Friday December 18, 2020 @01:14PM
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It sounds like state send is partial using the "phone" analogy.
Can there be triplicates of entanglement?
Re:Sustained, high-fidelity quantum teleportation
by pontus on Friday December 18, 2020 @01:42PM
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There are limits to how much three systems can be entangled with each other. It turns out that one system cannot be maximally entangled with two different systems. In fact, these types of arguments are often used in studying information paradoxes in black holes.
Re:Sustained, high-fidelity quantum teleportation
by drdeca on Friday December 18, 2020 @01:22PM
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Indeed there is a “no cloning theorem”.
Iirc it essentially comes from the fact that time evolution is linear, and a function that sends stateOfIntetest \otimes constantState to stateOfInterest \otimes stateOfInterest for all values of stateOfInterest would be quadratic?
Re:Sustained, high-fidelity quantum teleportation
by pontus on Friday December 18, 2020 @01:40PM
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Yes, it's a direct result from the linearity of time evolution in QM. Like you say, if state1 x raw_material -> state1 x state1 (i.e. we are able to take some raw material and clone state1) and also state2 x raw_material -> state2 x state2, then linearity forces us to also have (state1 + state2) x raw_material -> state1 x state1 + state2 x state2. This is not the same as (state1 + state2) x (state1 + state2) which is what we'd want in order to clone arbitrary states.
Re:Sustained, high-fidelity quantum teleportation
by chrisweekly on Friday December 18, 2020 @01:16PM
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Hey yeah I remember reading Penrose's "The Emperor's New Mind" in maybe 1998?, an interesting take on the nature of consciousness... fascinating stuff.
Re:Sustained, high-fidelity quantum teleportation
by comfyinnernet on Friday December 18, 2020 @01:14PM
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I don't think you would need exact duplication for these situations to arise.
I've always been entertained by the paradoxes where someone is teleported ala Michael Crichton's Timeline, and is then (due to some glitch) "duplicated", leading to interesting quandaries about "who is who".
If Penrose is right about consciousness [0], this means all these fantastical paradoxes are just fantasy, right?
[0]: https://bigthink.com/paul-ratner/why-a-genius-scientist-thin...