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Re:Facebook's Hypocrisy on Apple's New iOS 14 Privacy Feature by applerite987 on Friday December 18, 2020 @02:27AM (#25464686)
Both Google and Facebook have rigged online advertising. Apple is doing GOOD!
Re:Facebook's Hypocrisy on Apple's New iOS 14 Privacy Feature by TechBro8615 on Friday December 18, 2020 @02:39AM (#25464758)
Is this supposed to be a parody of a Trump tweet? It’s pretty good!
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Re:Facebook's Hypocrisy on Apple's New iOS 14 Privacy Feature by coldtea on Friday December 18, 2020 @03:53AM (#25465165)
>On the "we con you to buy a new $1000 phone every year by manipulating the CPU/battery so instead you paying $70 for a new battery, we skin you" they did pretty bad and I will never buy another Apple device for that.

They optimized for battery life by sacrificing some performance. That's basically what they did.

The rest is BS and media circus.

I had iPhones since 2008 and never felt compelled to "buy a new" every year, just because there was tiny percentage perf drop.

For one, the drop in battery (and thus perf tradeoff) happens after 3 or more years of use, not after the first year.

Apple is the only company that supports old phone models with new releases for as long, and the company with the best resale value.

So, don't buy into the media/ambulance chasers hoopla...

>On the "we force you to buy our OWN UNIQUE cables because f... the global standards and nature" they are still doing pretty bad

Most people already have 2-4 cables at home. Why include new ones if they don't need them? Just to churn out more plastic? Or is it a problem that in your $600 to $1200 purchase also needs to factor in a $20 cable if you don't already have one?

Environmentally speaking I'd force companies to mimick this: (a) use standard chargers and cables, (b) do not provide them in the box. People that already have several don't need them, people who don't can buy a standalone one (even third party for cheaper). The Lighting cable is not a standard (i'd force Apple to move to USB-C), but it's ubiquitous enough (it's not some obscure, per-device cable, like we had in days of yore).

>On the "you can only buy (iOS) apps from us and nobody else, yeah!" I don't find that so good either.

I do. I wouldn't want to be forced to use the Google store for certain apps, the Facebook store for other apps, random third party stores with shady malware apps imposed upon the less savvy users, and so on...

I buy iPhones because of the integration. Go get a Librem phone for the "ultimate" open experience...

Re:Facebook's Hypocrisy on Apple's New iOS 14 Privacy Feature by michaelt on Friday December 18, 2020 @06:39AM (#25466119)
> They optimized for battery life by sacrificing some performance. That's basically what they did.

> The rest is BS and media circus.

Eh, I don't object to Apple slowing down the phone in the name of stability when the battery is worn.

It's more that they did it without telling the user it was happening or documenting that it could happen.

And given that it was by the same company that pioneered the glued-in battery, and is famously unhelpful to third-party repair shops, it's reasonable to see that as part of a pattern.

> For one, the drop in battery (and thus perf tradeoff) happens after 3 or more years of use, not after the first year.

People's experiences vary a lot depending on their phone use. I have a computer at home, a computer at work, and a commute where I can't use a phone. Use 20% charge per day and slow-charge every night? Battery will last for years!

On the other hand, someone who spends two hours a day streaming netflix while they commute then use their phone a bit a home as well? The sort of person who charges twice a day? They're going to see the symptoms of battery wear a lot earlier.

Re:Facebook's Hypocrisy on Apple's New iOS 14 Privacy Feature by ghaff on Friday December 18, 2020 @10:07AM (#25467769)
On the one hand, I imagine pretty much everyone (including Apple) agrees that they didn't do a great job of communications around this. On the other hand, Apple is one of the companies where everything they do is heavily scrutinized and turned into sensationalist clickbait fodder.
Re:Facebook's Hypocrisy on Apple's New iOS 14 Privacy Feature by danieldk on Friday December 18, 2020 @06:26AM (#25466057)
They optimized for battery life by sacrificing some performance. That's basically what they did.

And even then, I have various family members who are still on a 6S, because they feel it's fast enough. A 5 year old phone that still gets the latest OS updates and feels pretty smooth. You can't get the same from a competitor that targets non-technical users. (I am sure that there is some open source Android 11 build that runs on the Nexus 5X.)

Re:Facebook's Hypocrisy on Apple's New iOS 14 Privacy Feature by AshWolfy on Friday December 18, 2020 @11:22AM (#25468552)
Thats a bullshit excuse, apple has the worst battery management, ive seen a flood of iphones, including iphone 10s, with power issues with no equivalent for any other manufacturer outside of specific models
Re:Facebook's Hypocrisy on Apple's New iOS 14 Privacy Feature by daemoon on Friday December 18, 2020 @04:14AM (#25465277)
> On the "we con you to buy a new $1000 phone every year by manipulating the CPU/battery so instead you paying $70 for a new battery, we skin you" they did pretty bad and I will never buy another Apple device for that.

Three things:

1. It takes more than a year, maybe 3-4, to degrade the battery enough for it to affect performance in any way.

2. There are many iPhone models at different price points, the cheapest one being $399.

3. If they didn't cap the performance they would be making headlines for "Older iPhones suddenly power off for no reason" instead.

Their only mistake was to not communicate good enough to the users that performance would return back to normal after a battery replacement.

Re:Facebook's Hypocrisy on Apple's New iOS 14 Privacy Feature by lotsofpulp on Friday December 18, 2020 @07:38AM (#25466478)
You can easily notice the difference in a battery after it has gone through 500 charge cycles, which can easily happen in 2 years.

Even my mom has it happen from using Facetime all day.

Re:Facebook's Hypocrisy on Apple's New iOS 14 Privacy Feature by daemoon on Friday December 18, 2020 @08:17AM (#25466725)
> You can easily notice the difference in a battery after it has gone through 500 charge cycles...

Of course, that's how batteries work. However, 500 charge cycles will likely not affect CPU performance but rather the battery life (which is why I said "enough for it to affect performance").

I had 1352 charge cycles and 75% battery health before replacing it and even though the battery life was shortened, I did not experience any sudden shut downs.

Re:Facebook's Hypocrisy on Apple's New iOS 14 Privacy Feature by nmfisher on Friday December 18, 2020 @03:48AM (#25465145)
The saving grace is that it's (relatively) easy to avoid Apple's ecosystem if you don't like the way they do business (like me).

Google/Facebook is much more difficult.

Re:Facebook's Hypocrisy on Apple's New iOS 14 Privacy Feature by ghaff on Friday December 18, 2020 @10:12AM (#25467814)
Facebook seems relatively easy to me as well, although I have few friends/family who are regular Facebook users at this point. Maybe if I had extended family or circle of friends who all used Facebook daily, I'd feel differently.

Google I agree is harder and not using Google (including Android) makes it pretty hard not to use other tech giants like Apple and Microsoft.

You can mostly avoid using one or two of the dominant firms. It's pretty hard to avoid using all of them.

Re:Facebook's Hypocrisy on Apple's New iOS 14 Privacy Feature by naravara on Friday December 18, 2020 @10:55AM (#25468263)
> Facebook seems relatively easy to me as well, although I have few friends/family who are regular Facebook users at this point. Maybe if I had extended family or circle of friends who all used Facebook daily, I'd feel differently.

Instagram and WhatsApp are how Facebook really gets its hooks in these days. They manage to avoid the stink of their parent company's brand.

That said, Instagram is falling out of favor with the yutes. They're moving into TikTok now, which is just as invasive with the added bonus of Chinese state censorship added on.

Re:Facebook's Hypocrisy on Apple's New iOS 14 Privacy Feature by BlueTemplar on Friday December 18, 2020 @04:29AM (#25465372)
> On the "we force you to buy our OWN UNIQUE cables because f... the global standards and nature" they are still doing pretty bad

Considering the looong time that it took (takes!) to get out USB-C, and the early "fried laptop" issues, one can't exactly blame them ?

Re:Facebook's Hypocrisy on Apple's New iOS 14 Privacy Feature by auggierose on Friday December 18, 2020 @03:47AM (#25465133)
If you can get conned into a $1000 phone, that is really entirely your problem, not Apples.

Cables? Really? I am sure you are not ordering on Amazon, because that is an environmental mess.

NFC. Complaining about a feature you got and it seems, wanted?

Jesus. Stop whining.