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Re:Amazon disallows pointing out paid reviews by JohnJamesRambo on Thursday December 17, 2020 @09:31PM (#25463134)
Almost every single item on Amazon and everywhere else is 4.5 stars. No matter how terrible. I can see one star after one star helpful review but it will still be 4.5 stars for items that just fall apart and are obviously defective. The sellers just game the reviews until they get to that magic 4.5.

Goodhart's Law: “When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure.”

Luckily Amazon will take back anything and they are eating massive return costs from me for not having working, non-gamed reviews.

Re:Amazon disallows pointing out paid reviews by ntsplnkv2 on Thursday December 17, 2020 @11:00PM (#25463673)
The most frustrating thing now is seeing a product >4.5 stars, but going to the reviews and all the most recent ones are 1/2.
Re:Amazon disallows pointing out paid reviews by Can_Not on Friday December 18, 2020 @01:44AM (#25464494)
Often I'll find that all the five star reviews describe a completely different product.
Re:Amazon disallows pointing out paid reviews by alpaca128 on Friday December 18, 2020 @04:55AM (#25465548)
That's the trick where the seller replaces a good product's name, description and picture, which effectively transfers all existing(positive) reviews to a different product. Which only shows how many people don't look at a single review if the score is good enough.

The other trick that Amazon doesn't give a damn about is using the mechanism meant for different product colors and sizes to combine multiple products into a shared entry, which mixes all the reviews together and makes it basically impossible for the customer to see the score for each individual item.

As far as I can tell Amazon's only reaction was to start banning customers who returned too many products. I wonder why.

Re:Amazon disallows pointing out paid reviews by Natanael_L on Friday December 18, 2020 @01:25PM (#25470189)
Steam has done something smart here by displaying both the total score and a recent trend score, so you can see if recent changes has made the game better or worse.
Re:Amazon disallows pointing out paid reviews by yarcob on Friday December 18, 2020 @12:31AM (#25464193)
The problem is that a lot of people don't bother sending back stuff because it's too much of a hazzle, and it's unlikely that any of the other products on Amazon are any better. You already know that you aren't really going to get some high quality product for 19.99€. You still check the reviews to try to get the best quality product, but in reality you already know the product is going to be crap.
Re:Amazon disallows pointing out paid reviews by b0rsuk on Friday December 18, 2020 @04:44AM (#25465474)
I deal with this by explicitly seeking sub-5 reviews. I read them to see if criticisms mentioned bother me. I used to think I was a little paranoid, but now I'm going to double down on this.
Re:Amazon disallows pointing out paid reviews by bananaface on Friday December 18, 2020 @06:21AM (#25466028)
Unironically good advice I got a few years ago was to only ever read the 3-star reviews, because they're the most informative and balanced.
Re:Amazon disallows pointing out paid reviews by b0rsuk on Friday December 18, 2020 @06:33AM (#25466095)
It's true. Often reviews are split between excited and outraged people. Those who write 'yellow' (as opposed to green or red) reviews on Metacritic are often those who can see nuance, weigh pros and cons.
Re:Amazon disallows pointing out paid reviews by jjeaff on Thursday December 17, 2020 @10:16PM (#25463401)
They are mostly just passing all the return costs off to the 3rd party sellers that sell most of their products these days. So it's no sweat off their back as long as they can be good enough to keep you coming back.
Re:Amazon disallows pointing out paid reviews by mixcocam on Friday December 18, 2020 @12:00AM (#25464043)
Returns are paid by third party sellers not by Amazon (unless it's one of the ~20% of products actually sold directly by Amazon.
Re:Amazon disallows pointing out paid reviews by abandonliberty on Friday December 18, 2020 @03:16AM (#25464970)
The people actually gaming the reviews? Fantastic!
Re:Amazon disallows pointing out paid reviews by vixen99 on Friday December 18, 2020 @04:59AM (#25465567)
Not my experience with books at least which is about all I buy on Amazon. I've come across plenty of negative reviews. A book's probably worth buying if it appears to meet the buyer's expectations culled from something like half a dozen reviews or more from disparate sources.