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Re:Tensions in Google's ethical AI group increase as it send... by tomdell on Thursday December 17, 2020 @11:07AM (#25456839)
That claim by Jeff Dean has been more or less debunked. The real reason that Google demanded the paper not be published is that it is critical of models underlying the company’s fundamental business - the whole message from Jeff Dean is very misleading and states a bunch of other, unrelated things as the “real reason”.
Re:Tensions in Google's ethical AI group increase as it send... by zaroth on Thursday December 17, 2020 @11:18AM (#25456943)
It would be very helpful to point to sources for the claim that Jeff Dean's explanation is debunked, rather than just claiming it has been.

The timing of the submission for review, and the deadline for submission to publication seems like a simple factual statement that should be easily demonstrated as true or false.

Re:Tensions in Google's ethical AI group increase as it send... by pseudalopex on Thursday December 17, 2020 @06:58PM (#25462147)
Several Google employees said it wasn't the regular process.[1][2]

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25309488

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25309379

Re:Tensions in Google's ethical AI group increase as it send... by hnuser123456 on Thursday December 17, 2020 @11:42AM (#25457202)
AI is far more energy efficient than creating the incalcuable number of human programmers required to directly program the same solutions. Writing NLP code with non-ML methods, to the same level of quality, would be essentially impossible without an operation on the scale of warfare.

Even with the efficiency benefits that it already has, we all know ML still stands to be further optimized, and a lot of people are working on it.

Comparing the exponential increase of "intelligence" of computers versus our own, computers will be as smart as humans with similar energy efficiency in around 50 years, and they require no cars, food, etc. It will be hard to criticize the efficiency of ML when it is already moreso than our biological selves, but it will be done, and we will be wholly outsmarted.

Re:Tensions in Google's ethical AI group increase as it send... by uh_uh on Thursday December 17, 2020 @11:19AM (#25456955)
Debunked by whom?