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Re:Twitch bans words “simp” and “virgin” by Barrin92 on Wednesday December 16, 2020 @09:44PM (#25451776)
I didn't really follow streaming closely, mostly I just used to watch Day9 because I was familiar with him from the early Starcraft days and a few other small streamers so I never really understood how toxic twitch is, but when I started to look at the popular categories honestly it was way worse than what I even thought.

From people trying to trigger a woman who has tourettes to disguised n-word spam, it's way worse than even your average comment section. Not really sure how to fix it either. One big problem I think is this feature that streamers have figured out where you let viewers pay a few bucks of money and then they can use it for text-to-speech. It's basically designed to give trolls an outsized platform.

Re:Twitch bans words “simp” and “virgin” by WalterGR on Thursday December 17, 2020 @03:38AM (#25453778)
One big problem I think is this feature that streamers have figured out where you let viewers pay a few bucks of money and then they can use it for text-to-speech.

I had no idea what that meant. Found this article that explains it: https://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-set-up-text-to-speech...

"You can set up text-to-speech donations on Twitch through a widget called an 'Alert Box.' With text-to-speech donations enabled, viewers can attach messages to their donations, which will then be read aloud on your stream."

It notes: "You can also set up a blacklist of words that the text-to-speech robot won't read."

Re:Twitch bans words “simp” and “virgin” by throwaway189262 on Thursday December 17, 2020 @09:05AM (#25455641)
It should be noted that most streamers have mods (internet janitors) that pre-screen TTS. It ranges from tips to berating to sometimes hilarious jokes.

A common TTS would be something like "Go back through the door on the left you missed the best weapon in the game you single celled organism 777777777777777777" . A mixture of helpful, berating, and spam.

Re:Twitch bans words “simp” and “virgin” by Mountain_Skies on Thursday December 17, 2020 @07:23AM (#25454926)
I wonder if the robot understands phonetics. As a rambunctious pre-teen, I figured out how to make the Billy Bob speechbot (not stage performer) at Showbiz Pizza say curse words by using alternative spellings. The tech of the time likely could only combat this by increasing the size of the dictionary of words not to say. Now it should be able to detect such homonyms but did anyone think to set that up.
Re:Twitch bans words “simp” and “virgin” by Bakary on Wednesday December 16, 2020 @10:37PM (#25452153)
I am under the impression that the toxic userbase generates the most spending and engagement (not surprising if you think about it...) Therefore we are probably in feature-not-a-bug territory here.
Re:Twitch bans words “simp” and “virgin” by throwaway123409 on Thursday December 17, 2020 @12:34AM (#25452872)
I don’t think thats true.

There’s people who have endless time (teenaged trolls) and there’s people who have endless money (lonely middle aged techies)

The teenaged trolls (incels) provide the engagement, and the lonely middle aged techies (simps) provide the spending.

Re:Twitch bans words “simp” and “virgin” by bawolff on Thursday December 17, 2020 @03:13AM (#25453664)
I don't know about twitch, but from my experience with other internet places, often the least mature people who you are sure must be some 15 year old asshole, turns out to be 40, and some of the most mature members turn out to be surprisingly young. I don't think we should assume all trolls all teens.
Re:Twitch bans words “simp” and “virgin” by SpicyLemonZest on Thursday December 17, 2020 @02:50AM (#25453549)
It’s worth noting for comparison that many sports have a similar problem with their spectators - fans getting into fistfights and riots is far from unheard of.
Re:Twitch bans words “simp” and “virgin” by throwaway189262 on Thursday December 17, 2020 @08:59AM (#25455594)
This is overblown. It's no worse than radio shows teens used to listen to. Idiots would call in and say all sorts of crap. Twitch viewership is young so there's a lot of "edgey" channels.

There's tons of streamers that don't allow their chat to be a disaster. For others, allowing chat to go nuts is their MO.

The funniest thing to me is utterly un-insteresting "tit streamers" wearing as little as they can to avoid violating ToS.

IMO twitch is just a reflection of the differences in viewing tastes. There's an extremely wide range of channels and personalities. Something for everyone.

Re:Twitch bans words “simp” and “virgin” by whoknew1122 on Thursday December 17, 2020 @10:00AM (#25456126)
> "One big problem I think is this feature that streamers have figured out where you let viewers pay a few bucks of money and then they can use it for text-to-speech. It's basically designed to give trolls an outsized platform."

It really, really depends on the community the streamer creates. I spent a lot of time watching a transwoman who is a high-level MOBA player. She had a very active mod base who banned toxic or wanna-be edgy people.

She had automatic notifications that would post user-submitted messages across the screen. They were almost uniformly positive. Because of the community she fostered.

On the otherhand, there was a streamer of the same game who had a toxic community who would abuse text-to-speech. What was the difference? He himself was a toxic player, which attracted a toxic community trying to out-meme one another.