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Re:Nearly 8M Americans have fallen into poverty since summer by slg on Wednesday December 16, 2020 @01:52PM (#25446688)
Where in my comment did I say the federal government should have enacted a national lockdown? My complaint was the lack of a real plan. They left the states to fend for themselves without the level of guidance, coordination, or financial support that was needed for a proper response.

>State governments have the power to pay people to stay home. They might have to shift funding from other areas or raise taxes in order to do so.

Most states are run on a deficit and several states are already near bankruptcy. There simply isn't a capability at the state level to have the type of financial response that is possible at the federal level with its ability to print money.

Re:Nearly 8M Americans have fallen into poverty since summer by throwaway201103 on Wednesday December 16, 2020 @03:27PM (#25448135)
> Most states are run on a deficit

This is not true. All the states except Vermont have a legal requirement of a balanced budget.

https://www.ncsl.org/research/fiscal-policy/state-balanced-b...

Re:Nearly 8M Americans have fallen into poverty since summer by slg on Wednesday December 16, 2020 @05:25PM (#25449623)
I phrased that poorly. However there is also a difference between what these rules require and what you are stating. A proposed balanced budget isn't the same as a balanced budget in practice. And to quote your linked article:

>State balanced budget requirements in practice refer to operating budgets and not to capital budgets. Operating budgets include annual expenditures--such items as salaries and wages, aid to local governments, health and welfare benefits, and other expenditures that are repeated from year to year. State capital expenditure, mainly for land, highways, and buildings, is largely financed by debt

It is much easier to balance the budget when you ignore all those capital expenses.

Also there are other complexities involved. You can look at what happened in Illinois a few years back as an example. They basically didn't have an official state budget for multiple years. That didn't stop them from racking up costs and debt. It contributed to a debt crisis that the state is still trying to claw its way out of.

Re:Nearly 8M Americans have fallen into poverty since summer by nobody9999 on Wednesday December 16, 2020 @03:32PM (#25448185)
>Most states are run on a deficit and several states are already near bankruptcy.

The first isn't true at all. Most US States are forbidden to run deficits[0].

Which is why many states are already cutting services and laying off workers.

What's more, there are significant restrictions in most states on when and how they can raise money by issuing debt obligations (bonds).

With sales and income tax revenues plummeting in many states, that leaves them with few options other than cutting services, laying off workers and slashing public programs.

Without Federal assistance, things are going to get much worse before they get better.

[0] https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/briefing-book/what-are-state...