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Re:Bitcoin breaks above $20k by varajelle on Wednesday December 16, 2020 @12:07PM (#25445014)
> As for lightning, it adds a layer of trust into a system whose reason for existence is trustlessness.

That's not true. That's the beauty of lightning, it manages to add a layer without needing to trust any of the intermediate party

Re:Bitcoin breaks above $20k by nwah1 on Wednesday December 16, 2020 @12:57PM (#25445826)
For one, it uses onion routing, which means you are trusting that nodes are not colluding which each other to share information. In addition to the trusted watchtowers. If people start trusting the intermediate states of the payment channel then you could get into some really hairy territory in terms of trust.