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Re:A palm oil alternative could help save rainforests by Pfhreak on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @10:15AM (#25431025)
One uses coerced sterilizations and the other is about raising the level of education of half the population?

It should be pretty clear why improving education is not a yikes while eugenics is.

Re:A palm oil alternative could help save rainforests by beerandt on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @03:05PM (#25434467)
It's still coercion, if that's the purpose. I'm not suggesting we not educate people.

I am suggesting that the attempt of suppressing reproduction within a particular demographic, no matter the incentive or perceived "good" that results (cash or education), is walking a very fine line.

Re:A palm oil alternative could help save rainforests by cies on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @06:59PM (#25437154)
Both are not coercion. One is paying poor (cash hungry) men for something irriversible they may later regret. The other is providing education to poor women, and empowering them so they will (statistically) decide to have less babies.

Coercion is waaaay less, to the point that I'd like to say educating is not coercing. Education can be undone, unused, forgotten. Vasectomies not so much. I dont think "totally" suppressing reproduction is what happens: those women still want/can/will have babies, just not so many.

Re:A palm oil alternative could help save rainforests by Pfhreak on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @04:50PM (#25435662)
Oh, I see the point you are raising. Yes, if your reason for educating and empowering women is so they will have fewer children (statistically) then yeah, definitely need to questioned.