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Re:Apple’s Anti-Tracking Plans for iPhone by stefan_ on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @07:37AM (#25429701)
Fraud prevention? What exactly are you paying the Apple cut for?
Re:Apple’s Anti-Tracking Plans for iPhone by tenacious_tuna on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @08:04AM (#25429871)
I think they mean app-side: determining if a user is a bot or not gets harder when you can't tie that user to the datamine'd indicators of their humanity.
Re:Apple’s Anti-Tracking Plans for iPhone by swiley on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @08:14AM (#25429957)
Hackernews seems to manage.
Re:Apple’s Anti-Tracking Plans for iPhone by javajosh on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @08:23AM (#25430040)
We don't move money around or even have private messaging. If the stakes are high enough, users need the service provider to be skeptical of all client processes, because the risk of being impersonated is born, right or wrong, by the user.
Re:Apple’s Anti-Tracking Plans for iPhone by swiley on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @08:25AM (#25430057)
If you move money around then the legal system already exists to deal with fraud.

As someone who doesn't use an iphone it's really frustrating that online services are starting to expect one for this reason when it hasn't been necessary in the past.

Re:Apple’s Anti-Tracking Plans for iPhone by tenacious_tuna on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @09:26AM (#25430569)
There's a cost-benefit balance at play: is using the cost of the legal system (lawyers, evidence, courts, long tail on case times) better than developing a system to prevent fraudulent users?

I also wouldn't be surprised if there was a burden of "good faith effort" required to show that you've taken measures to prevent frauds.

Re:Apple’s Anti-Tracking Plans for iPhone by justapassenger on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @11:52AM (#25432053)
There’s legal system that exist to deal with people stealing stuff from my house. But I still have doors, locks, cameras and alarm.
Re:Apple’s Anti-Tracking Plans for iPhone by oauea on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @08:58AM (#25430308)
Again, what are you paying the apple cut for? Are you saying bots are buying your fancy messaging app?