Re:Why are new devices dependent on the Internet but made wi...
by stickfigure on Monday December 14, 2020 @04:08PM
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As noted in the HN thread, the Ferrari was disabled due to an anti-theft device and couldn't be unlocked remotely due to connectivity. Lack of connectivity is not responsible for the car being disabled; an attempted "theft" (from the device's perspective) was, and a stuck car is exactly what the owner asked for.
Even if there have been a few historical software bugs that caused some Nests to change temperature, it did not "become completely unresponsive in the middle of winter". Worst case is you walk up to the device and turn the temperature back up. Also, there's nothing in that bug report that suggests it has anything to do with internet connectivity.
A quick google search shows plenty of people getting locked in non-internet-connected cars.
The modern world is complex. Even before I replaced my thermostat with a Nest, my furnace was already way more fragile than my fireplace.
Re:Why are new devices dependent on the Internet but made wi...
by SilasX on Monday December 14, 2020 @03:25PM
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HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24754662
Re:Why are new devices dependent on the Internet but made wi...
by Broken_Hippo on Monday December 14, 2020 @03:02PM
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Old thermostats died from time to time, even when they weren't very old. Same with cars. They just had different problems than the modern ones.
Re:Why are new devices dependent on the Internet but made wi...
by falcolas on Monday December 14, 2020 @03:03PM
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Absolutely! But their failure cases weren't due to the inability to access a network or a server. This is whole new set of failure cases which exists over the top of the old ones.
And don't Nest thermostats occasionally have an issue where they default back to somewhere in the 60° range due to a server connectivity issue?
https://support.google.com/googlenest/thread/20510237?hl=en
Doesn't seem like nonsense.
Other fun internet connected car reads:
https://www.wcpo.com/money/consumer/dont-waste-your-money/wo...
https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/306338-phone-app-rental-...