Re:Reading Camus in Time of Plague and Polarization
by amadeuspagel on Monday December 14, 2020 @12:04PM
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You're talking past me. I'm not denying that these people are leftists, I'm saying that it doesn't matter. There's nothing wrong with quoting a leftist in a rightist argument (or vice versa).
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Re:Reading Camus in Time of Plague and Polarization
by nefitty on Monday December 14, 2020 @02:39PM
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This situation reminds me more of like when Bruce Springsteen objected to Trump using the song Born in the USA. Springsteen is alive to object. Camus isn’t alive to object, but looking at his past thinking, it’s not far fetched to presume that he would object to use of his art and writing to reinforce the arguments of political figures with opposing viewpoints.
Re:Reading Camus in Time of Plague and Polarization
by fjdjsmsm on Monday December 14, 2020 @02:45PM
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Except it isn’t about quoting. Many on the right claim that Orwell, Camus, etc were in-fact right wing and hated the left because they disagreed with extremist Stalinists and such.
It is much like religious people claiming Einstein was religious.
It seems to be a common tactic to rebrand people as believing in the opposite of what they did.
Re:Reading Camus in Time of Plague and Polarization
by amadeuspagel on Monday December 14, 2020 @03:16PM
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It is very much about quoting. Gingrich did not say that Camus was right wing. Nor have I ever heard that claim.
Re:Reading Camus in Time of Plague and Polarization
by cambalache on Monday December 14, 2020 @04:04PM
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Camus was a leftist who was against Stalinism, I am pretty sure he would have abhorred the Cultural Revolution in China and the woke brigade now.
Re:Reading Camus in Time of Plague and Polarization
by fjdjsmsm on Monday December 14, 2020 @04:23PM
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So, Maoism and ‘the woke brigade’ are the same thing? This is exactly my point. Thanks.
Re:Reading Camus in Time of Plague and Polarization
by cambalache on Monday December 14, 2020 @08:59PM
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If you dont like vanilla and you dont like chocolate are both those the same thing? This your standard of debate.
Camus, a free-thinker, womanizer, pied-noir,who reached across the aisle during the war writing to a German friend, it is the antithesis of the current woke, liberal,sex-repressed,pro-foreign-intervention, cancel-everybody-who-dares-to-think-different-to-me woke crowd so common in Twitter and here.