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A comment on Death by 1000 layers: the perils of over-abstraction in Java (2017). Parent comment

Re:Death by 1000 layers: the perils of over-abstraction in J... by Nursie on Monday December 14, 2020 @06:34AM (#25415868)
Testing against external dependencies is only one form of testing.

Unit testing with mocks is another form. One does not replace the other.

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Re:Death by 1000 layers: the perils of over-abstraction in J... by alquemist on Monday December 14, 2020 @06:37AM (#25415886)
Agreed. Using mocks while testing vanilla in-process code is never justified.
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