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Re:Sharrows, the bicycle infrastructure that doesn’t work an... by bigbubba on Sunday December 13, 2020 @04:59PM (#25410756)
> "go! no, you go! no you go!"

Seattle streets in a nutshell. As a frequent pedestrian I've lost count of the number of times a car has stopped in the middle of an intersection and frantically tried to wave me across a street. Some people are just bonkers. If you're already inside an intersection, don't yield to a pedestrian who's standing still on the sidewalk! Are people trying to get t-boned? Worse, in those situations I feel morally compelled to run across the street just so the driver will remove themselves from the dangerous situation they put themselves in for my sake. Absolutely infuriating.

Re:Sharrows, the bicycle infrastructure that doesn’t work an... by ghaff on Sunday December 13, 2020 @05:26PM (#25411020)
Pedestrians behave unpredictably. And they're often pretty isolated from their surroundings these days. I don't really disagree with you but the driver has probably also seen a pedestrian obliviously walk into an intersection like that.
Re:Sharrows, the bicycle infrastructure that doesn’t work an... by bigbubba on Sunday December 13, 2020 @05:35PM (#25411098)
If the pedestrian seems oblivious that's one thing, but if the pedestrian is staring you in the eyes and is broadcasting 'what the fuck are you doing?!?' body language and gestures, I don't see much excuse.
Re:Sharrows, the bicycle infrastructure that doesn’t work an... by alisonkisk on Sunday December 13, 2020 @06:38PM (#25411630)
Turn and face away from the street to forcibly yield right of way.

Drivers blowing through crosswalks (especially unmarked crosswalks) are far more common, to the point that it's unsafe to make a mandatory stop on a two lane per side road, because that risks killing the pedestrian when a driver in the second (left) lane illegally zooms past the stopped car and hits the nearly invisible pedestrian.

Re:Sharrows, the bicycle infrastructure that doesn’t work an... by bigbubba on Sunday December 13, 2020 @06:48PM (#25411698)
I'll have to try turning my back, I bet that will work.
Re:Sharrows, the bicycle infrastructure that doesn’t work an... by sneak on Monday December 14, 2020 @05:10AM (#25415308)
You don't need to turn, you can just stand there, on the sidewalk, facing the street, motionless. They'll figure it out within 60 seconds.