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Re:MicroStrategy's Bitcoin Debt Bet by PragmaticPulp on Sunday December 13, 2020 @04:51PM (#25410688)
The debate has been rehashed to death at this point.

By now, it seems that most of the original arguments about Bitcoin becoming the currency of the future didn’t pan out. In fact, very few people seem eager to spend Bitcoin because everyone wants it as a speculative investment vehicle. The narrative about what Bitcoin will be used for continues to wander, but for whatever reason the Bitcoin crowd doesn’t want to admit that it holds a unique place as a speculative investment and trading vehicle that has one foot outside of regulatory boundaries, making it inherently attractive to people hoping for abnormal returns.

This is also why you see big banks taking on numerically large positions that are nevertheless a very small portion of their overall portfolios: It’s a weird investment that might produce interesting returns, or it might not. Unfortunately, this news usually gets spun into hot takes that banks secretly predict Bitcoin is the future currency, which leads to more hype and more investment. This effectively makes large Bitcoin investments a self-fulfilling prophecy, as long as the banks manage to get out before the next big down cycle.

Re:MicroStrategy's Bitcoin Debt Bet by PKop on Sunday December 13, 2020 @06:05PM (#25411372)
>but for whatever reason the Bitcoin crowd doesn’t want to admit

I think this is freely admitted as the primary value proposition by many Bitcoin proponents

I think it is a misconception and misunderstanding by many BTC supporters and naysayers that BTC can be viable or that it necessarily must depend on being viable as a mass-transaction medium, unit of account or "currency".

Store of value is likely it's only function, but being finite, highly divisible, decentralized and highly transactable relative to other scarce assets, it could succeed wildly at this.

Re:MicroStrategy's Bitcoin Debt Bet by puranjay on Monday December 14, 2020 @12:36AM (#25413924)
The crypto market is wild and it's honestly fun as hell if you're okay with losing all your money overnight.

Bitcoin is arguably the most stable of all crypto right now (outside of stablecoins of course). There are smallcap and midcap coins that can go from -100% to +500% in a month.

Even large, established coins like XRP can go from flatlining for years to 3x in price in a week.

The best part is that no one really knows whats happening, and everyone has their own theories.

Re:MicroStrategy's Bitcoin Debt Bet by oillio on Monday December 14, 2020 @12:00AM (#25413732)
Many of the people that originally saw Bitcoin as a payment processor (as digital cash) moved on to Bitcoin Cash.

The scalability issues were evident from the beginning. The idea of running Visa scale transactions on a shared ledger were debated back in 2010. Anyone paying attention knew the main chain would, at best, be a large scale settlement layer. Other layers would be needed for day to day transactions.

Re:MicroStrategy's Bitcoin Debt Bet by loeg on Monday December 14, 2020 @12:19AM (#25413846)
Where did BCC go? Does anyone process payments in it?
Re:MicroStrategy's Bitcoin Debt Bet by oillio on Monday December 14, 2020 @01:30AM (#25414176)
BCC meaning Bitcoin Cash? It is commonly called BCH now. They are still around, with a few miners. They had a few forks which split and degraded their community significantly.

It is trading at about 0.013 BTC, which IMO is in line with their current impact.

Re:MicroStrategy's Bitcoin Debt Bet by qes on Monday December 14, 2020 @05:03PM (#25424011)
> They had a few forks which split and degraded their community significantly.

http://bitcoinclashic.org/

For those true to the _original_ Bitcoin Cash chain. lol