Re:How Pfizer delivered a Covid vaccine in record time
by iso1210 on Sunday December 13, 2020 @12:40PM
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> the prospect of contracting COVID-19 with roughly a 10% probability of developing severe to life-threatening symptoms?
Citation needed. For 45-65 year olds IFR seems to be in the 0.3% rate, for under 45s it's way lower.
Hospitalisations about 2-4 times the number of deaths, so that seems to be in the 1% range for 'severe' symptons if you catch it and are towards the older age of nurses
Re:How Pfizer delivered a Covid vaccine in record time
by monoideism on Sunday December 13, 2020 @01:34PM
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You're responding with IFR, which deals with infections (including many asymptomatic) and mortality, when your parent comment is discussing cases and severe morbidity.
That is, you're comparing apples and oranges.
IFR is almost always significantly lower than CFR for infectious diseases. That's particularly the case with Covid.
Re:How Pfizer delivered a Covid vaccine in record time
by iso1210 on Sunday December 13, 2020 @02:59PM
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A case is just a detected infection. If you have no tests, then your cases will be low. Your infections will be high.
A "Case Fatality" is a pretty meaningless number. You can't avoid the consequences of covid19 by not being tested.
Re:How Pfizer delivered a Covid vaccine in record time
by bluedino on Sunday December 13, 2020 @12:43PM
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A lot of people who don’t want to take it cite the lack of testing, actually.
Re:How Pfizer delivered a Covid vaccine in record time
by BjoernKW on Sunday December 13, 2020 @01:00PM
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There hasn't been a lack of testing. The vaccine in question went through all the usual required testing phases.
Re:How Pfizer delivered a Covid vaccine in record time
by SpicyLemonZest on Sunday December 13, 2020 @12:48PM
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I really feel like it's just sublimated fear of shots and chemical manufacturing processes. If you could offer the vaccine as a herbal remedy, I doubt there'd be any serious opposition to it; people are happy to try random weird herbal teas without expecting a demonstration of their safety.
How is getting a properly tested vaccine with a known 1 to 10% probability of side effects such as headaches or fever scarier than the prospect of contracting COVID-19 with roughly a 10% probability of developing severe to life-threatening symptoms?
Yes, there might be as of yet unknown vaccine side effects but the same is true for chronic symptoms that might be caused by COVID-19.