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Re:Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses by i_like_to_post on Saturday December 12, 2020 @01:49PM (#25400474)
Do you ever configure, type or have to share MAC addresses? Probably not.

On the other hand, most devs / technical staff type IPs into the browser and terminal daily.

Re:Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses by kortilla on Saturday December 12, 2020 @04:05PM (#25401699)
> On the other hand, most devs / technical staff type IPs into the browser and terminal daily.

No they don’t. Configure a DNS server and type these in once. Any time I see IP addresses passed around it’s a sign of broken infrastructure. (It also means you aren’t using tls or you’re training people to accept cert errors)

Re:Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses by i_like_to_post on Sunday December 13, 2020 @05:22AM (#25405551)
> No they don’t

Oh yes they do.

> Any time I see IP addresses passed around it’s a sign of broken infrastructure

Nope.

> It also means you aren’t using tls or you’re training people to accept cert errors

So, let me get this straight. You have a server that's behind CloudFlare, and you're claiming we should use DNS and TLS to SSH into it?

Re:Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses by kortilla on Sunday December 13, 2020 @08:05AM (#25406304)
I think you’re confused a bit, so let’s split apart the use cases to be clear why IPs are bad in both cases.

You said devs and technical staff were typing IPs into their browsers. Presumably this means the address bar, which breaks TLS.

SSH derives a big chunk of security from key caching. If you’re using IPs you now can’t have an IP change without triggering key warnings on the SSH clients for a new key at a minimum or (worst case) a breach.

Re:Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses by Symbiote on Sunday December 13, 2020 @07:07AM (#25406014)
IPs should be passed to the DNS server, yes.

Every server/VM I control (~200) has a DNS entry. Every active IP has a reverse (PTR) entry.

I have a monitoring task to check for missing DNS entries, as it usually suggests a problem (i.e. we've deployed or undeployed something incompletely).