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Re:Rudy Giuliani got monoclonal antibodies. You probably can’t by nr2x on Friday December 11, 2020 @03:57PM (#25390889)
Boris Johnson, PM of the UK, got his COVID care from the National Health Service, and while I imagine he got some VIP treatment, the delta between rich and poor in the US is the same as life and death. It's not an issue of an extra comfy pillow and a room with a view, it's being left to die because you can't afford treatment. Other countries don't do that.
Re:Rudy Giuliani got monoclonal antibodies. You probably can’t by tedfernau on Friday December 11, 2020 @04:04PM (#25390957)
It is not being left to die because you can’t afford treatment. It is bad enough that we don’t need to exaggerate.
Re:Rudy Giuliani got monoclonal antibodies. You probably can’t by ardy42 on Friday December 11, 2020 @04:19PM (#25391148)
> It is not being left to die because you can’t afford treatment. It is bad enough that we don’t need to exaggerate.

If you don't have the money to pay, hospitals in the US are only required by law to stabilize you. So, for instance, if you can't afford cancer treatment, you'll likely die of untreated cancer.

Re:Rudy Giuliani got monoclonal antibodies. You probably can’t by ReallyAnonymous on Friday December 11, 2020 @09:18PM (#25394700)
In South Carolina, where I work for a hospital, you automatically qualify for Medicaid when you’re diagnosed with cancer.

This way people don’t die from untreated cancer.

Getting diagnosed early when uninsured is where we fail as a society. Our politicians cover up this failure by giving them Medicaid so we spend $500k treating advanced disease and they still die, rather than universal coverage.

Re:Rudy Giuliani got monoclonal antibodies. You probably can’t by nr2x on Friday December 11, 2020 @10:41PM (#25395283)
Yup, the cost of delayed care is quite often lives.
Re:Rudy Giuliani got monoclonal antibodies. You probably can’t by pwinnski on Friday December 11, 2020 @04:08PM (#25391001)
There are many reports of people self-rationing insulin and dying as a result. That's as close to "left to die because you can't afford treatment" as it's possible to get without murder charges.
Re:Rudy Giuliani got monoclonal antibodies. You probably can’t by gnusty_gnurc on Friday December 11, 2020 @04:40PM (#25391442)
> it's being left to die because you can't afford treatment

What? Emergency rooms can't refuse people in the US.

Re:Rudy Giuliani got monoclonal antibodies. You probably can’t by BearOso on Friday December 11, 2020 @11:25PM (#25395521)
People who can’t afford the cost or just don’t want to pay the exorbitant cost will avoid going, even if it means their lives.

Having chest pain? What if it’s just indigestion, you don’t want to go to the ER and have a $5000 bill. Oops, it was a heart attack and you’re dead. This is an actual discussion I had with one of my parents. Luckily, in that case it wasn’t a heart attack, but this is the patient-hostile system we’re working with.

The thing I always say is that when you allow health organizations and insurance companies to be for-profit, profit is going to be prioritized over health.

Re:Rudy Giuliani got monoclonal antibodies. You probably can’t by spiderfarmer on Friday December 11, 2020 @06:54PM (#25393393)
No, but they can still let you die after they stabilized you.