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Re:Heavy is the Head that wears the AirPods Max by GuB-42 on Friday December 11, 2020 @09:51AM (#25386400)
> Portable headphones should be built to last, not just flimsy plastic.

Good plastic is not flimsy.

Polycarbonate, an almost commodity plastic, is really strong and light. The next step: composites are way better than any metal if you want a good strength-to-weight ratio. The best, most expensive bikes are made out of carbon fiber composite for a reason.

Plastic is commonly used as casing material for stuff designed for rough environments. Portable power tools, PA speakers, even guns. So if something designed to be used on the battlefield can be made of plastic, there is no problem for headphones worn, at worst, in the subway.

The only problem with plastic is that it suffers from being cheap, as in, not expensive enough. People want expensive products to be made of expensive materials. Also, subconsciously we associate weight with quality, so much that cheap manufacturers sometimes add metal inserts to their otherwise low quality products to trick people into thinking they are better than they really are.

That it to say, unless you put a premium on look and feel (nothing wrong with that), don't hesitate to buy plastic headphones, they can last you a lifetime as long as the right plastic is used at the right place.

Re:Heavy is the Head that wears the AirPods Max by ghaff on Friday December 11, 2020 @10:16AM (#25386658)
You can also have long-term durability issues. But this is long-term as in probably decades which isn't really generally relevant for consumer electronics. I have a few older kitchen appliances that have started spontaneously developing cracks. I've patched things up and bought a couple of (ill-fitting) replacement parts. But I'll probably end up having to replace them even though they're otherwise functional. (Of course, the materials may well have improved by now.)
Re:Heavy is the Head that wears the AirPods Max by dreamcompiler on Friday December 11, 2020 @11:28AM (#25387506)
Polycarbonate stops bullets, but it's also notoriously soft, scratches easily, it's a thermoplastic (so it melts with heat), and it's soluble in ammonia or acetone (so it's vulnerable to nail polish remover). Other than all that, polycarbonate is a perfect plastic.
Re:Heavy is the Head that wears the AirPods Max by yread on Friday December 11, 2020 @11:11AM (#25387324)
Exactly, plastic lasts 10000s years. I'm a believer now - I've rebuilt a lego set from my childhood and all the bricks fit and look pretty much exactly the same, 30 years later
Re:Heavy is the Head that wears the AirPods Max by vanilla_nut on Friday December 11, 2020 @10:23AM (#25386723)
I wish that someone made headphones built with BPA-free plastic like my Aeropress (https://prima-coffee.com/equipment/aeropress/aeropress) or even my Lido 3 coffee grinder (https://prima-coffee.com/equipment/orphan-espresso/lido-3), which also uses stainless steel and aluminum. Considering how durable both of these tools are (and how good they feel in hand) I wonder why they haven't caught on in the tech industry.
Re:Heavy is the Head that wears the AirPods Max by kaszanka on Friday December 11, 2020 @10:34AM (#25386856)
I don't know if being BPA-free has anything to do with durability. I thought it was something that only mattered for food-related products (to avoid BPA getting into your food).
Re:Heavy is the Head that wears the AirPods Max by vanilla_nut on Sunday December 13, 2020 @03:08PM (#25409727)
Good point. I suppose I'm just talking about the feel of the Aeropress and, say, Nalgene bottles. That plastic feels somehow less "cheap" to me than most plastic electronic devices. I wonder why?
Re:Heavy is the Head that wears the AirPods Max by atombender on Friday December 11, 2020 @01:16PM (#25388789)
"BPA-free" doesn't mean much. The industry has been moving on from BPA due to (very reasonable) fears about human consumption, but it appears manufacturers simply moved onto other BPA-like alternatives such as BPS and BPF that have not been as extensively studied, and which may have the same health hazards.