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Re:Facebook being investigated in Germany for tying Oculus u... by leppr on Thursday December 10, 2020 @09:53AM (#25374257)
Creating fresh accounts for devices requiring them should be standard practice, and companies not allowing this boycotted.

When you buy an Android phone, Google gives you a "free" account if you chose to create one (no phone number verification needed).

EDIT: Or not, apparently. Might only work with some whitelisted manufacturers. Boycott Google too I guess.

Re:Facebook being investigated in Germany for tying Oculus u... by vorpalhex on Thursday December 10, 2020 @10:47AM (#25374922)
You can skip the Google account entirely on Android and everything still works more or less (more than a few nag screens, probably worth rooting if you go this direction).
Re:Facebook being investigated in Germany for tying Oculus u... by sdflhasjd on Thursday December 10, 2020 @01:11PM (#25376527)
I think that used to be the case, but I recently got an Android TV (I know it's not _exactly_ the same thing) and had no option but to log in.

Of course, creating a new account for just one device was a pain too, as Google required some verification steps which included an SMS message.

Re:Facebook being investigated in Germany for tying Oculus u... by vorpalhex on Thursday December 10, 2020 @02:38PM (#25377571)
Was this the new official Google TV (which is NOT actually Android TV though likely based off of it) or a 3rd party product?
Re:Facebook being investigated in Germany for tying Oculus u... by denimnerd46 on Thursday December 10, 2020 @02:58PM (#25377805)
The Google TV Chromecast is an Android OS just confirm which is why Stadia doesn't work on it yet. Although you can sideload the Stadia mobile app.
Re:Facebook being investigated in Germany for tying Oculus u... by parliament32 on Thursday December 10, 2020 @12:19PM (#25375910)
You can't use the Play Store though, right? So no app installs unless you sideload from some other source?
Re:Facebook being investigated in Germany for tying Oculus u... by mrguyorama on Thursday December 10, 2020 @12:54PM (#25376352)
At that point you could probably sideload one of the alternative app stores and be all set, unless FDroid like hooks into google services for things
Re:Facebook being investigated in Germany for tying Oculus u... by vorpalhex on Thursday December 10, 2020 @02:36PM (#25377554)
There are alternative app stores and actually, the ones I've tried have worked pretty well. There is a way to get play store working but you'd be violating ToS technically.
Re:Facebook being investigated in Germany for tying Oculus u... by taylorfinley on Thursday December 10, 2020 @10:37AM (#25374792)
This has not been my experience for either of my last two Android phones, Google would not create an account without verifying a phone number. Their support forum recommended using a land line or borrowing a friend's phone.
Re:Facebook being investigated in Germany for tying Oculus u... by leppr on Thursday December 10, 2020 @02:19PM (#25377329)
That's sad to hear. The situation with smartphones is magnitudes worse than VR headsets. First, VR headsets have competitive consumer-respecting alternatives (Valve Index), second, they are for now purely an entertainment device, while smartphones are semi-required to competitively function in modern society. I'm surprised no government has yet tried to address the harmful smartphone OS duopoly, the only worthwhile initiatives are from unbacked Open-Source hackers.