Re:Former Tesla engineer sues for defamation
by Traster on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @04:51PM
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Bullying is when I push you over and take your milk. Tesla isn't a bully, Tesla has been part of the corporate capture of the American legal system, the CEO can literally call you a pedofile and be found not guilty of libel. If you're not powerful enough you can't even get a lawyer to represent you.
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Re:Former Tesla engineer sues for defamation
by pb7 on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @05:04PM
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Perhaps our legal system found that there is no evidence of libel and you are picking and choosing which legal decisions you agree with despite all being as part of the same system.
Re:Former Tesla engineer sues for defamation
by root_axis on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @07:33PM
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I'm no lawyer, but the fact that Elon got off on that just seems wrong. Elon's claims were completely made up and also specifically crafted to harm the victim's reputation with respect to the particular context of the accusation - baselessly labeling a man who risked his life to save children as a person that sexually abuses children. What a disgusting act. Elon is extremely famous, if that doesn't count as libel what does?
Re:Former Tesla engineer sues for defamation
by gamblor956 on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @08:25PM
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Elon's lawyers argued that it was clearly satire because it was so over the top he couldn't possible mean it, the same as when he made deliberate misrepresentations about selling the company in a naked attempt to manipulate stock prices.
Elon has very good lawyers.
Re:Former Tesla engineer sues for defamation
by gamblor956 on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @08:23PM
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Edit: nevermind. They withdrew the UK case and the one that went to court was in the US.
Re:Former Tesla engineer sues for defamation
by pb7 on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @08:58PM
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I'm not sure which case you're talking about. Trial was held in Los Angeles. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50695593
Re:Former Tesla engineer sues for defamation
by anchpop on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @06:21PM
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I'm actually unsure, is calling someone (let's say a private citizen rather an a celebrity) a pedophile based on flimsy reasoning illegal in the US?
Re:Former Tesla engineer sues for defamation
by gamblor956 on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @08:26PM
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It's considered "per se" defamation, meaning that the plaintiff only has to prove that the defamatory act occurred, not that any reputational harm actually resulted (the harm is presumed from the heinous nature of the defamatory statements).
Re:Former Tesla engineer sues for defamation
by 9HZZRfNlpR on Thursday December 10, 2020 @09:03AM
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Calling people rapists and pedos and getting a away with it is in my eyes very American.
Re:Former Tesla engineer sues for defamation
by notjes on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @05:07PM
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If the CEO does this in a private conversation, as in you and CEO, I don't see how this could be libel.
Re:Former Tesla engineer sues for defamation
by Rebelgecko on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @05:32PM
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I don't think tweets and newspaper editorials are considered private