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Re:YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread electio... by csa on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @03:21PM (#25364195)
> The democrats were claiming fraud 4 years go due to a supposed Russian influence

I’m not a fan of either party in the US — they both have glaring fatal flaws — but this comment is an irresponsible level of whataboutism.

The folks commenting on Russian influence in 2016 were doing it with some basis in reality, and it turned out that the facts were confirmed by the current administration’s DoJ. I will add that Russian interference was not their top beef — Comey’s statements seemed to be more disconcerting for these people.

The crazy shit that Trump is saying is a figment of his own imagination and nothing more. There is no basis in reality. No one will come in later and confirm that any of his ramblings were actually correct.

Free speech has always had limits when it has had the potential to harm others. While the line is not always clear, undermining the mechanics of US democracy with verifiably false accusations can easily be seen as something that is harmful to others.

Re:YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread electio... by JKCalhoun on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @03:25PM (#25364284)
Not sure why you are being downvoted. You take a hard stance but it seems factual.
Re:YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread electio... by brighton36 on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @03:46PM (#25364639)
Facts are disgusting. That's what makes them facts.
Re:YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread electio... by djsumdog on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @05:04PM (#25365906)
You do realize all the Russian 2016 influence turned out to be completely and totally false right? The CIA leaked information to Yahoo News and then used that news story based off their misinformation to get a FISA warrant.
Re:YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread electio... by chillwaves on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @05:33PM (#25366249)
False statements like yours should be moderated off this site.

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/press/senate-intel-relea...

>The ICA correctly found the Russians interfered in our 2016 election to hurt Secretary Clinton and help the candidacy of Donald Trump

>The Committee finds the Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA) presents a coherent and well-constructed intelligence basis for the case that Russia engaged in an attempt to interfere with the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

Re:YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread electio... by djsumdog on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @06:11PM (#25366744)
It's not a false statement. Just look at the Carter Page liable lawsuit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qODProeRQ4c

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Re:YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread electio... by mullen on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @03:55PM (#25364785)
> "The" facts? Is there a master list of facts that I'm not aware of out there somewhere? Is it composed of an aggregation of all(!) the "facts" asserted by all respectable, trustworthy journalists and politicians in the last few years?

The DoJ literally published a report outlining the Russian meddling in the 2016 election. The Republican control Senate Intel Committee also published a report outlining the Russian meddling the 2016 election. If you don't believe either of these organizations, then there is nothing left to talk about.

Re:YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread electio... by mistermann on Thursday December 10, 2020 @01:21AM (#25370443)
> The folks commenting on Russian influence in 2016 were doing it with some basis in reality

Journalists qualify as "folks" I would think. But it's true I suppose, much of what they said had some basis in reality. Nothing to see here.

> If you don't believe either of these organizations, then there is nothing left to talk about.

There's this: "Is it composed of an aggregation of all(!) the "facts" asserted by all respectable, trustworthy journalists and politicians in the last few years?"

This holier than though "how dare you!" culture when someone asks legitimate questions about legitimate wrongdoing (here I refer to journalists and their tendency to wildly speculate, which clearly exerts psychological influence on belief formation in the public) is annoying. And on top of it I get a [reported]. Nice.