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Re:YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread electio... by slacka on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @01:49PM (#25362474)
Nice false equivalence. Judges have ruled that Trump's side has failed to show any evidence of fraud in Court, losing 50/51 court cases, with the "win" having nothing to do with fraud[1]. On the other hand, there are literally thousand of pages from the Senate Committee on Intelligence showing evidence of Russian Interference in 2016. [2] [3], along with the Mueller Report [4]. Russian Interference in 2016 is not comparable to Trump's false claims of fraud in 2020.

[1] https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-losing-election-laws...

[2] https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/docu...

[3] https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/docu...

[4] https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf

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Re:YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread electio... by hashmymustache on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @02:13PM (#25362983)
Funny how the comment you’re responding to said Russian collusion but you instead bring up the separate topic of Russian interference.
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Re:YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread electio... by ehsankia on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @02:34PM (#25363344)
It doesn't change the fact that the courts have decided that there was no fraud over dozens and dozens of lawsuits. The proponent of the Russia collusion wanted it investigated, and there was very little talk about it after (the honestly poorly handled) Mueller report.

And while there was no clear evidence of Trump himself colluding, many were indicted and even admitted guilt. How many people have gone to jail for fraud in the 2020 election? Is there the equivalent to the Jr. email and the Trump Tower meeting when it comes to election fraud? Has there been a single real evidence of fraud shown in courts (not on News or social media where there are no consequences for lying)?

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Re:YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread electio... by JamisonM on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @09:18PM (#25368788)
Really it is worse than that, the media narrative pushed by the litigants is about "fraud" but most of the losing lawsuits don't even allege fraud!
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Re:YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread electio... by colordrops on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @11:58PM (#25369915)
Wait who admitted guilt of russian collusion? No Russian collusion was ever proven.
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Re:YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread electio... by casefields on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @07:35PM (#25367819)
Agreed. This shit is going to radicalize people, and all these big tech companies better be ready. There will be a backlash.
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Re:YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread electio... by pdabbadabba on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @06:27PM (#25366986)
I read it. And what I found was nearly 200 pages describe various forms of collusion between Trump campaign officials and various Russian actors. True, there was no "treason." But that's moving the goalpost. If we stick with "Russian collusion," the Muller report confirms that it was, in fact, rampant--albeit not chargeably criminal. ("Collusion" is not a crime.)
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Re:YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread electio... by its_simple on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @08:01PM (#25368069)
"Not charegably criminal." So then what are we even talking about?
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Re:YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread electio... by habeebtc on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @09:24PM (#25368827)
In fact "not chargeably criminal" as it is written in the report reads more like, "Reasonable Doubt exists, based on what we were able to find. We are out of time and resources, so if it is there, we may not find it." Paraphrasing of course.

What was "chargeably criminal" was the obstruction of justice.

I read it. It's in there, and it is damning on both counts, the second count enough to indict anyone but a president.

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Re:YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread electio... by shanty on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @10:03PM (#25369124)
Exactly true. However the Russian investigation spanned years. These things take a lot of time to work through the investigative process. Take a look here, https://hereistheevidence.com, which provides significant questionable items that still need to be investigated.
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