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by nostrademons on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @04:16PM
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For physics nerds: momentum is mv, kinetic energy is 1/2mv^2. Upon firing, the chemical energy of the powder is converted to kinetic energy in the bullet. When the bullet hits the target kinetic energy is converted to tissue damage. More powder = more kinetic energy = more damage. Heavier bullet = more momentum = more recoil. That's why the Glock has so much more kick, while the AR-15 has more penetrating power and range. There are also pretty massive differences in the aerodynamics of the bullet, which probably helps the AR-15's range a lot:
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Re:Agents raid home of fired Florida data scientist who buil...
by ric2b on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @06:32PM
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> Heavier bullet = more momentum = more recoil.
But if you have the same amount of powder (chemical energy) a heavier bullet will simply move slower, resulting in the same momentum and recoil.
What makes the AR-15 easier to handle is that the gun itself is heavier, so it moves slower from the recoil. That and a few other things like dissipating the energy over a large area on your shoulder instead of the palm of your hand.
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by ubermonkey on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @06:45PM
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My understanding is that there's also some clever gunsmithing involved to help reduce felt recoil there as well, but I'm not an authority in any way.
Re:Agents raid home of fired Florida data scientist who buil...
by pandaman on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @07:06PM
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62 grams is a big hunk of metal, you probably mistyped "grains"? 62 grains is just ~4 grams.
Re:Agents raid home of fired Florida data scientist who buil...
by ubermonkey on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @09:15AM
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You are correct. I have both columns in my spreadsheet and misread.
5.56 is about 4 grams, or 62 gr.
9mm is about twice that: 7.5 grams or 115 gr.
Essentially zero handguns produce the kind of energy downrange that an AR-15 produces.
You feel more recoil with a pistol, sure, but that's misleading in the extreme.
Because I am a giant nerd (I mean, look where I'm posting) I have a folder full of Excel docs I created to collate information to compare it for my own amusement. One of those is about ballistics.
An AR is almost always chambered in 5.56x45mm, a NATO standard caliber. The actual projectile in a 5.56 round is super super small -- like, 62 grams. But there's a LOT of powder behind it, so it delivers on the order of 1800 J.
Glocks are most often in 9mm, which is the most popular handgun round in the world. The actual bullet for 9mm is about TWICE as massive, but has so much less powder, and so much less barrel to spin up, that its downrange energy is typically less than 500J -- ie, like 28% of the AR.
But the Glock will buck in your hand, for sure. It takes training and practice to be able to hit the target reliably over and over.
An AR, though, is insanely stable for lots of reasons -- obviously, it's heavier than the pistol, but that's not all of it. There's some clever design involved. But the end result is a gun that most any trainable person can learn to shoot accurately very, very quickly. The marriage of 5.56 and the AR platform creates a weapon that's really insanely good at rapid, accurate fire.
This made it very successful as a military rifle, and makes it a serious terror in the hands of someone bent on bad acts.