Re:YouTube is streaming the first 19 James Bond movies for free
by jwalton on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @11:19AM
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Yeah, I 100% agree. I heard an interview with Daniel Craig once where he said that they couldn't make Casion Royale as fun and playful as the originals, because of "Austin Powers". He said they would have had to walk a delicate line between parody/campy and fun, and they felt it wouldn't have worked. But now we don't get any new "real" Bond movies. :/
Re:YouTube is streaming the first 19 James Bond movies for free
by WorldMaker on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @04:00PM
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Austin Powers borrowed a lot from the original Casino Royale (the 60s spoof version), and the classic 60s spoof duology In Like Flint/Our Man Flint (fun watches that still hold up; Austin Powers even directly name drops them). Those 60s spoofs didn't kill campy/fun James Bond, and also show us evidence of this sort of spoof/serious cycle in Bond (and elsewhere) is likely cyclical. If history is to judge, we're about to the point where Austin Powers flutters out of collective consciousness again and given the right actors/directors/producers the Bond movies can do fun stuff again.
Re:YouTube is streaming the first 19 James Bond movies for free
by beerandt on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @07:37PM
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That's more excuse than argument, to me.
I think that's basically an admission to packaging and marketing a new franchise under the Bond brand.
Anyway, all the Bond movies were campy or felt B-movie-ish to some extent. Each actor did it in a different way, but they all did it. And don't forget that Moonraker exists. Which I love, but come on.
The self-parody wasn't always explicit or obvious, but it was always blatantly there. Running on alligators, breaking the 4th wall, an eyebrow wax as a (racist by today's standards) disguise.
It was always there.
Re:YouTube is streaming the first 19 James Bond movies for free
by vb6sp6 on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @12:58PM
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> They might be the best action movies, but I don't consider them the best Bond movies
yes, they seem to borrow heavily from the Bourne movies instead of from past Bond movies. Still enjoyable.
It's not that I don't like them, or even like them any less in general; I just have a hard time considering them to be Bond movies at all. They're so serious, even when being sarcastic and dry. They're not fun, and not something I probably would have been excited to binge watch as a kid, as the other ones are/were. I try hard to convince myself this is just temporal bias, but I'm less convinced the more I think about it.
And I still can't wrap my head around the fact that Goldeneye and Casino were directed by the same person.
I say this as someone who has 4 different actors in my top 5 Bond movie list, and none are Craig. So probably not a popular opinion- but also as someone who's never read any of the books, but seen every movie multiple times.
Then again, I also consider Brave Little Toaster to be a better version of Toy Story 3, for almost opposite reasons, while I still consider TS3 to be objectively the best Pixar-formula movie made. (Unless counting the first 10 mins of Up as it's own entity.)