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Re:Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley... by rcpt on Monday December 07, 2020 @05:12PM (#25338374)
I biked to work nearly every day in NYC. The weather really isn't that bad.

And in NYC if ever I had some other obligation after work instead of my usual commute that was bikeable to. In California nearly every time an errand popped up I couldn't bike that day.

Re:Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley... by legerdemain on Monday December 07, 2020 @06:37PM (#25339307)
"Really isn't that bad" is your experience. The physical reality is that average January lows in NYC are 20 degrees lower than in SF.
Re:Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley... by bart_spoon on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @12:30PM (#25348476)
> The physical reality is that average January lows in NYC are 20 degrees lower than in SF.

The physical reality is that 20 degrees lower isn't that bad. Humans have thrived in colder climates for thousands of years. Being a human being in a modern day NYC/Chicago winter is a cakewalk, unless you are among the small subset of people who treat anything below 60F like its a death sentence.

Re:Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley... by legerdemain on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @01:02PM (#25349012)
Are you arguing that a majority of people prefer winter weather in NYC to winter weather in SF?

The initial claim up-thread was "SF has a phenomenal climate though in comparison."

Re:Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley... by hn_user82179 on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @11:40AM (#25347640)
Agreed. It's definitely doable in the winter but is objectively less "easy" (have to pull out/put on weather gear) and more dangerous (lower visibility when it's snowing or raining, and fewer cyclists are out in general so cars don't expect you as much).
Re:Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley... by rcpt on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @10:42PM (#25355065)
I didn't bike when it was raining or snowing but was still able to bike many more days than in California because after work errands didn't wreck my whole plan.
Re:Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley... by hn_user82179 on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @11:45AM (#25347720)
Sure, but SF is temperate year-round. Winter weather cycling's definitely doable but I immensely prefer cycling in SF year round, where I don't have to plan ahead or remember any warm gear. And I find not being able to bike for errands surprising, unless you lived outside of SF proper? I exclusively ran errands walking/biking/by bus for several years.