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Re:Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley... by philwelch on Monday December 07, 2020 @04:34PM (#25337883)
At some point the basic maintenance of law and order (or conversely the refusal to do so) takes precedence over walkability or the local art and culture scene. As for tolerance, West Coast cities are rapidly developing a social and political milieu that is openly hostile towards the tech industry to a much greater degree than Austin or Miami (to name two examples from the article) are hostile to LGBT people.
Re:Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley... by ianmobbs on Monday December 07, 2020 @04:39PM (#25337944)
Are you really saying that it's harder to be a techie than LGBT in San Francisco?
Re:Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley... by philwelch on Monday December 07, 2020 @05:44PM (#25338740)
I can't speak to San Francisco, but in Seattle at least, I never saw any flyers or graffiti telling LGBT people they were unwelcome and should leave town, nor did I ever encounter political discourse that LGBT people were somehow ruining the city, or scapegoating the LGBT community for local issues. So in my personal experience as an LGBT software engineer, I wouldn't be surprised if San Francisco was the same way.
Re:Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley... by season2episode3 on Monday December 07, 2020 @06:46PM (#25339392)
I bike by "Go Home Tech Bro" stickers on stop signs pretty frequently in Seattle
Re:Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley... by lazyasciiart on Monday December 07, 2020 @07:08PM (#25339598)
Me too, and in 2014 someone tried to burn down Neighbors with hundreds of people inside, and before the pandemic gay couples reported being harassed and assaulted for walking down the street in Capitol Hill, and I heard more than one guy entering different bars (again, in Capitol Hill) cautiously check that this bar didn't have GAY PEOPLE, right? So I think the idea that tech people are less welcome than gay people is a horrendously uninformed one.
Re:Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley... by manfredo on Monday December 07, 2020 @06:50PM (#25339425)
When I lived in SF it was socially acceptable to openly degrade tech workers. Nancy Pelosi's daughter went on TV and called SF tech workers "vermin" and "invaders" and described the presence of tech works as an "infestation". Open hostility and dehumanization is condoned. In no way did I feel oppressed, but it did come off as tone deaf the way people on one breath say stuff like that and in the next complain about how tech workers weren't invested in the community.
Re:Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley... by medium_burrito on Monday December 07, 2020 @07:27PM (#25339778)
Yeah it's so tough being a tech worker. I feel almost as oppressed as the billionaires.
Re:Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley... by philwelch on Monday December 07, 2020 @07:57PM (#25340102)
Who said anything about oppression? I just don't think anyone wants to live and work in a place where they are unwelcome and unwanted.
Re:Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley... by thu2111 on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @05:58AM (#25343824)
The post you're replying to literally says "in no way did I feel oppressed"
Re:Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley... by uoaei on Monday December 07, 2020 @05:15PM (#25338415)
Victimization narratives are intoxicating. A lack of diversity in experiences will lead some down narrow paths.
Re:Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley... by philwelch on Monday December 07, 2020 @06:05PM (#25338975)
In principle I agree with you--this is one of the biggest pathologies of our time.