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Re:With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work o... by m-p-3 on Monday December 07, 2020 @03:38PM (#25337131)
I agree, but at some point you have to decide if the tradeoff between the freedom to run whatever you want is worth the invasiveness of having an anticheat software analysing your system in-depth for cheating softwares is worth it.

In a way, it's true that it's none of their business which softwares you use, but it's also their business to make sure the multiplayer experience is fair for the entire userbase.

I guess that's the beauty of games consoles, where the execution of softwares is tightly controlled to minimize piracy and cheaters.

Re:With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work o... by adambyrtek on Monday December 07, 2020 @05:57PM (#25338894)
Maybe that trade-off should be more flexible and dependent on the "league" a given player wants to play in. The criteria could be more strict for the "pros" where cheating can lead to significant gains, like professional athletes who have to pass regular anti-doping tests, but you wouldn't expect the same invasive checks from (for example) people participating in a charity run.
Re:With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work o... by hombre_fatal on Monday December 07, 2020 @06:47PM (#25339401)
The problem with your idea is that nobody wants to play with cheaters.

Everything that makes the game fun is defeated by a single cheater.

So people are just going to choose between playing with 0 cheaters or go play a different game.

Re:With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work o... by waterhouse on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @07:54AM (#25344481)
Years ago I read about some game service that detected cheating and put cheaters into games with other cheaters. The author said it was pretty effective.
Re:With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work o... by drewzero1 on Wednesday December 09, 2020 @02:30PM (#25363283)
Reminds me of Game Dev Tycoon's clever anti-piracy trick, where they released a "cracked" version of the game on file sharing sites shortly after launch. The "crack" disabled the copy protection but also changed the gameplay so that NPCs would pirate your products in-game and drive you out of (virtual) business.
Re:With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work o... by adambyrtek on Monday December 07, 2020 @07:03PM (#25339543)
Good point, I haven't played games much since the late 90s and I'm returning to gaming only now (partially thanks to Proton), so my experience with multi-player is based mostly on modem or LAN parties with friends, where the social aspect helped to prevent cheating. I guess it's very different now when you can play with random people on the other side of the world.
Re:With Proton and Steam Play, many Windows games now work o... by tapoxi on Monday December 07, 2020 @06:12PM (#25339048)
Historically this is what game developers did, and the servers without anti-cheat enabled were rife with cheating.

When games switched from server browsers to matchmaking, they just defaulted to using the anti-cheat system.