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Re:WW1 trench fever identified in former homeless man in Canada by CryptoPunk on Monday December 07, 2020 @08:00AM (#25331681)
>>not exactly amenable to liberal democracy

I'm a big fan of liberal democracy, so this was an argument against involuntary commitment and forced labor, not an argument against liberal democracy.

The 'liberal democracy' reference is not using 'liberal' in the same context as the 'liberal cities' I referred to later.

>>the vulnerable who are predated upon by drug dealers

I wouldn't characterize that as a talking point associated with the right at all. The left is known for displacing blame for the misbehavior of drug addicts onto external forces, and this particular point does the same. Though it does sound critical of drug dealers, which is a right-ish argument.

Anyway, it's impossible to not sound political, when the problem is political. And it's impossible to not be critical of the left, when it is mostly the left that is to blame. Left-wing run cities are much worse off than right-wing ones with respect to homelessness, violent crime, drug-abuse, etc, by any metric you look at, and they got that way, from a starting state of much greater social order and more functional civic life, under decades of left-wing policies that gradually became more extreme.

Re:WW1 trench fever identified in former homeless man in Canada by DFHippie on Monday December 07, 2020 @08:54AM (#25332090)
> And it's impossible to not be critical of the left, when it is mostly the left that is to blame.

QED

Re:WW1 trench fever identified in former homeless man in Canada by jahaja on Monday December 07, 2020 @01:50PM (#25335581)
> Left-wing run cities are much worse off than right-wing ones with respect to homelessness, violent crime, drug-abuse, etc, by any metric you look at

Unless of course you look at the generally much more left wing Western-Europe. But that doesn't fit your narrative.

Re:WW1 trench fever identified in former homeless man in Canada by CryptoPunk on Monday December 07, 2020 @09:55PM (#25341120)
Vancouver's drug policy is more left-wing than even Portugal's.
Re:WW1 trench fever identified in former homeless man in Canada by jahaja on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @02:32AM (#25342831)
You're missing the point. The entire societies are more left-wing.
Re:WW1 trench fever identified in former homeless man in Canada by CryptoPunk on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @01:50PM (#25349688)
Why compare the US to Europe, and not leftist cities in the US to right-wing ones in the US?

That removes a huge number of potential confounding factors that could explain differences in outcome, letting the effects of differences in policy be better revealed.