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Re:Excess mortality from March to December of 2020 by Viliam1234 on Monday December 07, 2020 @07:56AM (#25331667)
It conflates "deaths caused by pandemic" with "deaths caused by reactions to pandemic" with "deaths caused by random things that accidentally happened during the pandemic".

Imagine a parallel universe, where COVID-19 is actually just a flu, but for some reason the oppresive governments execute anyone who says so. In the parallel universe, they also have excess mortality (because of the executions) during 2020. So you cannot use the mere fact of excessive mortality to prove that we do not in fact live in this parallel universe.

Re:Excess mortality from March to December of 2020 by adewinter on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @11:17AM (#25431644)
> It conflates "deaths caused by pandemic" with "deaths caused by reactions to pandemic" with "deaths caused by random things that accidentally happened during the pandemic".

It is not "conflating". That's the actual point of the exercise here. It's asking, how would things have been had there not been a pandemic? How much impact did the pandemic have on the society, in TOTAL, OVERALL.