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Re:Cyberpunk 2077 has involved months of crunch, despite pas... by jakelazaroff on Sunday December 06, 2020 @07:39PM (#25328145)
Who cares? It’s a game. Incompetence or not, harassing and threatening devs is not okay.
Re:Cyberpunk 2077 has involved months of crunch, despite pas... by buzzerbetrayed on Sunday December 06, 2020 @08:51PM (#25328608)
Stop implying that anyone is suggesting threatening devs is ok. GP in no way implied this at all.

You can point out the delays are do to incompetence without agreeing that death threats are ok.

Re:Cyberpunk 2077 has involved months of crunch, despite pas... by jakelazaroff on Sunday December 06, 2020 @09:36PM (#25328838)
You're misrepresenting GGP's comment. They mentioned incompetence so as to exculpate the people getting bent up about a video game coming out a few months late — behavior that, as GGGP described it, included death threats.
Re:Cyberpunk 2077 has involved months of crunch, despite pas... by koheripbal on Monday December 07, 2020 @08:44AM (#25332026)
> They mentioned incompetence so as to exculpate the people

You are ascribing intent where there is none. We need to stop framing conversations based upon the extremists in the population.

The root comment is full of hyperbole, but there is no indication he supports death threats, that's just silly.

Re:Cyberpunk 2077 has involved months of crunch, despite pas... by 0xy on Sunday December 06, 2020 @08:01PM (#25328314)
Reread the OP. It's not exclusively about threats. This is also a giant billion dollar corporation that deliberately misled customers (who in many cases have already paid them for the product).

How did they deliberately mislead them? By saying things like only a natural disaster would stop the latest release date, only for it to slip with less than a month left.

That's an actual lie and false advertising. As someone with project management experience, the people making those claims are either incompetent or lying.

So yeah, customers who paid them money and were lied to have an absolute right to be furious. Death threats is an excuse. 99.99% of the criticism was justified and without intimidation or threats.

Re:Cyberpunk 2077 has involved months of crunch, despite pas... by jakelazaroff on Sunday December 06, 2020 @08:26PM (#25328472)
Estimates are hard, software gets delayed. It’s not fun for the customer but it happens all the time and life goes on. Ask for your money back, or try for a class action lawsuit if you really think it’s fraudulent.

Obviously people can feel however they want, but we’re talking about $5–60 and like eight months delay; you’ll forgive me for being a little dismissive of people who are “furious” about this.

Re:Cyberpunk 2077 has involved months of crunch, despite pas... by stjohnswarts on Sunday December 06, 2020 @09:25PM (#25328786)
Yep, it's not like it's a covid vaccine or solution to global warming. It is guaranteed 100% survival rate for the complainers who really need to take a step back and look at what is really important in life. It's certainly not a game that you hasn't even been released.