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Re:Diem – A rebrand of Facebook’s Libra by netsharc on Sunday December 06, 2020 @10:02AM (#25323854)
I think Zuck's mission wasn't really about empowering the unbanked, but it's: fight WeChat. WeChat already has an effective digital payment system, with the tasty tasty analytics and surveillance capabilities (which yeah, Zuck also probably wants).

As to blockchains, that's because this is the hype of the last few years, is it not?

As to currencies, IMO the vision of the people hyping bitcoin was that your pizza place would accept BTC (and not after converting their USD price to BTC) because their supplies would be happy to do as well. A single currency for the world would be interesting, but as economists have pointed out, devaluing your currency is a way to escape economic crises, but e.g. Euro countries can't do this any more, hence the problems the PIIGS countries had.

Re:Diem – A rebrand of Facebook’s Libra by baumandm on Sunday December 06, 2020 @01:11PM (#25325298)
Facebook Messenger can already transfer money between people. They could just expand that into a fully featured digital wallet to compete with WeChat, Apple Pay, Google Pay, Samsung Pay, Cash App, PayPal, etc. It's actually astonishing they didn't do this a decade ago.

I get the VC appeal of blockchain, but Facebook already has the money to fund it. Outside tech circles I don't think slapping a blockchain label on a product will make it more appealing.

Re:Diem – A rebrand of Facebook’s Libra by eitland on Sunday December 06, 2020 @01:52PM (#25325617)
> Outside tech circles I don't think slapping a blockchain label on a product will make it more appealing.

I kind of hope the word "blockchain" should soon make it less appealing especially in tech circles.

Re:Diem – A rebrand of Facebook’s Libra by weare138 on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @12:11AM (#25342117)
I agree. I don't quite understand what overall benefit something like Diem brings. It seems like an extraneous amount of technical overhead and yak shaving just to do something other companies have been doing for years. It just strikes me as some convoluted marketing ploy to attract VCs. All Facebook needs to do now is figure out how to throw AI into the mix and they'll win tech buzzword bingo.
Re:Diem – A rebrand of Facebook’s Libra by xorcist on Sunday December 06, 2020 @10:54AM (#25324272)
Blockchain or not blockchain is perhaps the least interesting part of all the so called "blockchain" projects.

It's a term without an accepted definition. A lot of useless branding is expected. Just you wait until IBM gets their hands on .. oh, they already did.

Both the Bitcoin-like zero trust ledger and the m-of-n trusted notaries model have useful use cases. While more descriptive terms would have been great, arguing definitions only goes so far.

Re:Diem – A rebrand of Facebook’s Libra by davidgerard on Sunday December 06, 2020 @11:32AM (#25324510)
No part of the Libra/Diem plan required or requires a blockchain.

The reason for the blockchain: Libra was founded by four bitcoiners (Morgan Beller, David Marcus, Kevin Weil, Christian Catalini) who wanted something like bitcoin, but not volatile, and run by sensible people, i.e. them.