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Re:Bitcoin still makes no sense by prohobo on Saturday December 05, 2020 @08:40PM (#25320174)
This seems more like it's questioning cryptocurrency itself, and putting it at odds with fiat currencies and states.

As for states, they're rolling out their own cryptos. The Chinese have CryptoYuan, the EU central bank is releasing a currency likely by late 2021, and the Federal Reserve is also planning to create a new currency. That's how they beat Bitcoin.

Fiat currency is likely going to be slowly phased out as cryptos take hold, like an old iPhone.

States will absolutely gain power if they adopt cryptos, because they can implement currencies that can always be tracked and disseminated much faster and easier than fiat.

Re:Bitcoin still makes no sense by Vadoff on Saturday December 05, 2020 @08:57PM (#25320296)
The whole point of Bitcoin is that it isn't controlled by any one country and that more can't be printed whenever the country wants.

Any new currency or "coin" that a country develops completely misses the mark, and is literally no better vs Bitcoin than their standard currency.

Re:Bitcoin still makes no sense by bingbong123 on Sunday December 06, 2020 @09:56AM (#25323829)
Transparent monetary policy for 100+ years hard coded... No secret fed meetings about policy that give large banks a permanent information advantage while the rest of the population is left in the dark and forced to plan in 4 year(if your lucky) periods.
Re:Bitcoin still makes no sense by echelon on Saturday December 05, 2020 @08:51PM (#25320260)
Which state will win? Will USD fall to CryptoYuan, or will the US solution have advantage?

Where can you follow design of these initiatives?

Could a state actor DDoS another state's crypto, or will these just be centralized systems with just the crypto moniker?

Will Libra make it?

Re:Bitcoin still makes no sense by prohobo on Saturday December 05, 2020 @09:06PM (#25320356)
Considering China has bought up a majority of gold in the past decade, and they're the global leader in production, I'd say CryptoYuan will have the best chance of winning out.

I assume they're keeping their designs under wraps for now, but I haven't really taken a deep look. There is some info available though:

* The Chinese Central Bank has filed over 80 patents relating to CryptoYuan, which can be checked out - https://digitalchamber.org/pboc-patent-repository/

* The European Central Bank released a report in October - https://www.ecb.europa.eu/pub/pdf/other/Report_on_a_digital_...

* The Federal Reserve is apparently still just researching - https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/notes/feds-notes/cent...

DDoSing another state's crypto would probably be considered an overt act of war, so I don't know how often that could happen.

I have no idea what Libra is to be honest.