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Re:Teddit: a free and open-source Reddit front end focused o... by 1vuio0pswjnm7 on Saturday December 05, 2020 @07:04AM (#25313938)
"... no javascript."

This is why I hang around on HN. Only place I know where I can find other people who agree that today's use of Javascript, 9 times out of 10, amounts to a nusiance.

The show/hide design pattern is annoying, IMO. Should be an accessibility violation; cannot tab through it.

I guess thats why I use a text-only browser. Avoids all the Javscript nonsense, not to mention the next CSS trick du jour.

Re:Teddit: a free and open-source Reddit front end focused o... by j-krieger on Saturday December 05, 2020 @07:54AM (#25314185)
The irony of complaining about one echo chamber and enjoying living in the 'no javascript' bubble is astounding. Can you use text-only websites for most use cases? Sure. Are people more likely to pay for your product if your website has client-sided interactivity and doesn't look awful? Absolutely.

I really don't get this complain and I've only seen it from developers. Certainly not company owners for pay for server/hosting costs (because they have seen how the insane costs of rendering everything server-side with large user bases). Even common people prefer it the way it is currently. The market has decided.

Re:Teddit: a free and open-source Reddit front end focused o... by CodeGlitch on Saturday December 05, 2020 @08:37AM (#25314453)
Are you sure it's not just that developers understand how the web works and know there's an alternative?

Most normies have no clue what JavaScript is

Re:Teddit: a free and open-source Reddit front end focused o... by NosyHammock on Saturday December 05, 2020 @07:47AM (#25314140)
>The show/hide design pattern is annoying, IMO.

Hmmh, I don't know how to make it better. It's really challenging to do it without JS in the first place. Do you have any ideas?

Re:Teddit: a free and open-source Reddit front end focused o... by j-krieger on Saturday December 05, 2020 @07:52AM (#25314167)
So you're asking how to do it without a tool that was specifically designed for that purpose? I really don't get the hate for JS these days.
Re:Teddit: a free and open-source Reddit front end focused o... by NosyHammock on Saturday December 05, 2020 @10:16AM (#25315115)
>So you're asking how to do it without a tool that was specifically designed for that purpose?

Yes, you are correct. This is a hobby project of mine, and one of the goal was to make old.reddit.com like UI without no JS at all. That's what I will do.

>I really don't get the hate for JS these days.

Unnecessary Javascript bloats websites, hogs system resources, enables surveillance, hinders accessibility that’s native to devices and clients, and introduces vulnerabilities. https://nojs.club/

Of course in this case using JS to hide/show comment tree wouldn't really be that bad, but works fairly well without it. Not many have complained.

Re:Teddit: a free and open-source Reddit front end focused o... by 1vuio0pswjnm7 on Saturday December 05, 2020 @02:49PM (#25317692)
The way I work around this, if I am stuck using a Javscript-enabled browser, is to just view the source of the page.

The information (content) is right there, in the page. I would say there is nothing to fix. It is just the Javascript getting in the way.